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Old 06-22-2007, 05:11 PM   #46
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So what? Monson is a 240lb heavy that started out as a light heavy who is only 5ft 9.His built like a tank.I never mentioned anything about his conditioning nor strength thats totally immaterial.But if you watch his fight with Tim you`ll see his famed hands were like lead and his musculature which IS NOT trained for explosiveness didnt allow him to do anything except grab Tims ankle and get pummled.FACT Monson is slow.FACT Monson is musclebound.Theres no many here that would disagree.. aprt from you of course
He lost to tim because he was a foot shorter and facing a guy running away the whole fight, not because he isn't explosive. He is one of the best scramblers around, and one of the fastest heavys on the ground.

The bottom line is you said he was muscle bound and slow because he trained like a powerlifter, while clearly he doesn't train like a powerlifter.


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Old 06-22-2007, 05:22 PM   #47
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Listen, he IS build for explosiveness. Unless you're a bodybuilder, big muscles DEFINE explosiveness. The reason he failed against Tim, like i said, is because he failed at basics of how to take tall people down, or anyone for that matter. He didn't do it off of a punch, he wasn't close when he took ANY of his shots. He failed miserably. You really can't judge him not being explosive from this match.
Big muscles define explosiveness???!?!?!?!? Dude seriously which pipe are you on? Do you think Ronnie Coleman or Gunter Schlerkamp are explosive??!?!?! There is NOTHING explosive about Monson his just a big strong guy with great Jujitsu.Monson can get guys on the floor FACT.He just coulnt get Tim to the floor because he couldnt negate Tims physical advantages and he didnt have the boxing dirty boxing skills of Randy as well as the head movement to avoid Tims pesky sloppy jab.Everytime Monson went for a leg Tim simply sprawled..
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Old 06-22-2007, 05:26 PM   #48
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He lost to tim because he was a foot shorter and facing a guy running away the whole fight, not because he isn't explosive. He is one of the best scramblers around, and one of the fastest heavys on the ground.

The bottom line is you said he was muscle bound and slow because he trained like a powerlifter, while clearly he doesn't train like a powerlifter.


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Jesus why grasp at straws sherlock! Monson has repeatedly said he uses a powerlifting routine to compliment his Jujitsu ground game.Theres many vids of his training regimes on youtube i suggest you look at some..
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Old 06-22-2007, 09:04 PM   #49
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Big muscles define explosiveness???!?!?!?!? Dude seriously which pipe are you on? Do you think Ronnie Coleman or Gunter Schlerkamp are explosive??!?!?! There is NOTHING explosive about Monson his just a big strong guy with great Jujitsu.Monson can get guys on the floor FACT.He just coulnt get Tim to the floor because he couldnt negate Tims physical advantages and he didnt have the boxing dirty boxing skills of Randy as well as the head movement to avoid Tims pesky sloppy jab.Everytime Monson went for a leg Tim simply sprawled..
Well, first of all, you have to read what i said. Coleman and Gunter are in the "bodybuilder" division. Monson is a wreslter so he IS trained in explosiveness. His endurance and his style complement explosiveness. He might not be the most explosive in takedowns because he doesnt have big legs, ill give you that. But he can some bitches down. He failed in taking Tim in technique/strategy, not explosiveness.
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