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Old 07-01-2012, 12:37 PM   #16
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Performances aside, he just wasn't anywhere near as aggressive in the UFC. He was still a slugger, but he simply didn't have that sense of barely-controlled animalistic rage.



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Old 07-01-2012, 12:38 PM   #17
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:39 PM   #18
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:42 PM   #19
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Funny gif, but what does it show?

It seems fairly self-evident that the sense of intensity and barely-controlled violence that PRIDE Wanderlei was so famous for just wasn't there in the UFC.

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WOW, you are special

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Old 07-01-2012, 12:49 PM   #21
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Some guys obviously see whatever they want to see...that's the difference between a 'fan' and a MMA google scholar.

Anyway how can a thread title like this not have a mention anywhere of Mark Kerr or Coleman or matter of fact anyone from Hammerhouse with no mention?
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:52 PM   #22
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Yeah Kerr is the prime example. Watched the Herring fight a while back and he looked totally different. He put up a good fight that being said and heath himself is a strong guy
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:55 PM   #23
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Yeah Herring kneed the **** out of Kerr
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:57 PM   #24
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Yeah Kerr is the prime example. Watched the Herring fight a while back and he looked totally different. He put up a good fight that being said and heath himself is a strong guy
Heath was about number 2 in the world at the time. Just goes to show how good Fedor was as he absolutely rag dolled Heath literally. And yeah there was a big difference between Kerr post drug abuse.
Coleman was just as bad though. Although not an addict the way Kerr was PEDs were routine for him. If i recall he was about 240lbs prior to leaving the UFC for PRIDE when he was at his biggest.
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:01 PM   #25
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You realize I can post gifs of Jon Fitch pummelling somebody on the ground like that?

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Look at the aggression! Look at the relentless ground and pound! This Jon Fitch character is a wrecking machine!

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Some guys obviously see whatever they want to see...
Sure thing, Mr "Bodybuilding is much bigger than MMA."

Also, point me to where Google is involved in this thread, if you will. Just point out anything I've said that isn't clearly stated as either a personal opinion or a request for information.

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yeah...Nice to see you aint making a tit of yourself again Haggis
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:11 PM   #27
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No doubt Vitor used in his prime days of UFC for sure......Paulo Filho in PRIDE in other one I believe too...
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:15 PM   #28
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yeah...Nice to see you aint making a tit of yourself again Haggis
So, to clarify - your stance is that Wandy was clean all through PRIDE, and to suspect him of roiding is to make "a tit of yourself"?

That's your statement on the matter? No grounds to suspect that Wandy may have been on steroids during his PRIDE days, and it's stupid to suggest that he likely was?

Post another . Or you could quit following me around the forum yapping at my heels - I'm pretty sure that shit has gotten old for everybody. That's if you don't have anything to contribute to the thread. Which you apparently don't, since you've contributed no names to the discussion and constructed no arguments, but only posted emoticons, an insult and a meaningless gif.

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Old 07-01-2012, 01:16 PM   #29
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Quote me where I said that, and then you have your answer

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Old 07-01-2012, 01:24 PM   #30
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Quote me where I said that, and then you have your answer

Well, you're mocking me for suggesting it. You haven't tried to deny that Wanderlei looked shrunken and was noticeably less aggressive in and out of the ring after he left PRIDE. It's a very realistic and commonly-held view that he was roided up to his ****ing eyeballs in PRIDE, so why try to mock me and belittle me when I simply line up with the general consensus?

Unless you just have a weird infatuation with me and are going to do that same shit no matter what opinion I hold, no matter which topic I comment on?

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