Khans sparring session on Behind the Ropes - Page 3

silly_illy · 07-10-2012, 10:47 PM

im a khan fan but he got hit alot from that little short russian.
shit Garcia may win this :(

JIM KELLY · 07-11-2012, 01:28 AM

all amir seems to be talking about is his conditioning (strength). If he he doesn't bring anything new and better to his game on saturday then sod him..

veritas · 07-11-2012, 01:56 AM

Khan has retained the bad habits he had when he first went to train under Roach. He jumps in with wild flurries, end up off balance, and has zero inside game.

His best and most disciplined performance under Roach was against Kotelnik, but even here he used up a lot of energy staying out of trouble using footwork to get out of range after he threw instead of head and lateral movement.

In every fight since then this part of his game has gone out of the window, as he's gone back to his gunfight mentality of old, hoping his handspeed and increased strength will do the trick.

I agree that he's now too fixated on strength and conditioning rather than working on his skills.

I think Garcia has a more than good chance of beating Khan on Sat.

boxfanlut · 07-11-2012, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazarus

I wouldn't worry too much. Sparring is sparring. We've seen Manny look bad in sparring, we've seen Mayweather look bad in sparring and so on.

Sparring really should not be read into. I remember Khan's fight with Kotelnik where a sparring session was released a week before the fight at his gym and he was getting hit a lot and didn't look great at all, but he put an absolute clinic on the dude.

Wonder if Mayweather is 43-0 in sparring?

mishima · 07-11-2012, 08:03 AM

this reaction reminds me of the time when FW shared a bad sparring video of Khan before the Kotelnik fight

Go Getta · 07-11-2012, 08:13 AM

Talk about reading too much into a few mins clip of him sparring, don't worry only a few days left till we see him in a real fight.

Muzza · 07-11-2012, 08:38 AM

When Freddie wasnt there in the 1st sparring he was wild & all over the shop. The 2nd sparring with freddie watching he was much better. If that sparring was from a week or 2 ago it would be a worry, but that was earlier in camp as Freddie was away training Chavez for the Lee fight which was 4-5 weeks ago. And the convo at the end of 1st sparring with Ruben was very interesting. Ruben said "when u get him off balance & box him ur in charge" & khans response was "It looks boring". That's a worry if ur Freddie. He wants to get into a tear up to please the crowd instead of boxing & moving behind the jab.

Muzza · 07-11-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by silly_illy

im a khan fan but he got hit alot from that little short russian.
shit Garcia may win this :(

I Agree he got hit an awful lot but that was from 4-5 weeks back when he's not gonna be anywhere near peak form.

shenmue · 07-11-2012, 08:43 AM

My only fear for Khan this Saturday is that he gasses late and gets stopped, new trainer so he might not be as conditioned.

I wouldn't read too much into the sparring video though, except for the part about not wanteing to be boring. After a loss (a tainted one but still a loss) the only thing on Khan's mind should be getting a win.

Earl-hickey · 07-11-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mishima

this reaction reminds me of the time when FW shared a bad sparring video of Khan before the Kotelnik fight

yup they all swallowed it hook line and sinker that time too.

Lilo · 07-11-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Primadonna Kool

How thick are some of you people..?

Ringside is a edited TV program. During a boxers training camp and sparring sessions, fighters will be working on different areas of their game. You might be boxing and moving around with some sparring partners, you might be fighting on the inside with some sparring partners and putting emphasis on tying a guy up.......

People need to use their fucking brains. That was one sparring session! Coaches show in camp, what they want the public and opponents team to see!

Its another classic example of ESBers taking something very small e.g. a 30 second, isolated sparring clip or a one line quote and jumping to conclusions without trying to understand the context.

iceferg · 07-11-2012, 09:23 AM

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivUq87j3TE[/ame] on this video. He looks good at first but then starts getting battered. 11.20

iceferg · 07-11-2012, 09:42 AM

Watched the whole thing now and Khan does come back a bit towards the end. Does anyone know what channel this is on?

Arnie · 07-11-2012, 09:42 AM

Worst I've seen of Amir in that sparring clip!

mishima · 07-11-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Earl-hickey

yup they all swallowed it hook line and sinker that time too.

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07-10-2012, 10:47 PM	#31
silly_illy Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: More money, more cash, more hoes. Posts: 2,470 vCash: 1000	Re: Khans sparring session on Behind the Ropes im a khan fan but he got hit alot from that little short russian. shit Garcia may win this :(
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07-11-2012, 01:28 AM	#32
JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Han's Island Posts: 18,519 vCash: 1000	Re: Khans sparring session on Behind the Ropes all amir seems to be talking about is his conditioning (strength). If he he doesn't bring anything new and better to his game on saturday then sod him..
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07-11-2012, 01:56 AM	#33
veritas newbie Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 40 vCash: 500	Re: Khans sparring session on Behind the Ropes Khan has retained the bad habits he had when he first went to train under Roach. He jumps in with wild flurries, end up off balance, and has zero inside game. His best and most disciplined performance under Roach was against Kotelnik, but even here he used up a lot of energy staying out of trouble using footwork to get out of range after he threw instead of head and lateral movement. In every fight since then this part of his game has gone out of the window, as he's gone back to his gunfight mentality of old, hoping his handspeed and increased strength will do the trick. I agree that he's now too fixated on strength and conditioning rather than working on his skills. I think Garcia has a more than good chance of beating Khan on Sat.
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07-11-2012, 08:03 AM	#35
mishima Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,154 vCash: 500	Re: Khans sparring session on Behind the Ropes this reaction reminds me of the time when FW shared a bad sparring video of Khan before the Kotelnik fight
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07-11-2012, 08:13 AM	#36
Go Getta Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: London, UK Posts: 2,165 vCash: 240	Re: Khans sparring session on Behind the Ropes Talk about reading too much into a few mins clip of him sparring, don't worry only a few days left till we see him in a real fight.
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07-11-2012, 08:38 AM	#37
Muzza Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 389 vCash: 500	Re: Khans sparring session on Behind the Ropes When Freddie wasnt there in the 1st sparring he was wild & all over the shop. The 2nd sparring with freddie watching he was much better. If that sparring was from a week or 2 ago it would be a worry, but that was earlier in camp as Freddie was away training Chavez for the Lee fight which was 4-5 weeks ago. And the convo at the end of 1st sparring with Ruben was very interesting. Ruben said "when u get him off balance & box him ur in charge" & khans response was "It looks boring". That's a worry if ur Freddie. He wants to get into a tear up to please the crowd instead of boxing & moving behind the jab.
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07-11-2012, 08:43 AM	#39
shenmue Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,105 vCash: 75	Re: Khans sparring session on Behind the Ropes My only fear for Khan this Saturday is that he gasses late and gets stopped, new trainer so he might not be as conditioned. I wouldn't read too much into the sparring video though, except for the part about not wanteing to be boring. After a loss (a tainted one but still a loss) the only thing on Khan's mind should be getting a win.
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07-11-2012, 09:23 AM	#42
iceferg Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,870 vCash: 547	Re: Khans sparring session on Behind the Ropes [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivUq87j3TE[/ame] on this video. He looks good at first but then starts getting battered. 11.20
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07-11-2012, 09:42 AM	#43
iceferg Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,870 vCash: 547	Re: Khans sparring session on Behind the Ropes Watched the whole thing now and Khan does come back a bit towards the end. Does anyone know what channel this is on?
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07-11-2012, 09:42 AM	#44
Arnie Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 616 vCash: 1000	Re: Khans sparring session on Behind the Ropes Worst I've seen of Amir in that sparring clip!
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