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Old 07-05-2007, 05:37 AM   #1
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Default Khan v Limond

I do not know much about Willie Limond, will he provide the first stern test for Amir Khan?

If Khan wins convincingly will he have answered any critics, likewise does anyone fancy Limond to win?
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Old 07-05-2007, 06:58 AM   #2
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Easily Khan's biggest test since Kindelan.. he's fought pretty much bums until now..
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:31 AM   #3
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i dont think Limon will offer Khan a big problem i predict a late tko 8th or 9th round
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:09 PM   #4
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another question? who in the lightweight division at present is a harder test than Kindelan
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Old 07-06-2007, 03:06 PM   #5
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another question? who in the lightweight division at present is a harder test than Kindelan
We aren't talking about the same division that has Casamayor and Diaz!
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another question? who in the lightweight division at present is a harder test than Kindelan

Baz Carey?
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:22 PM   #7
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We aren't talking about the same division that has Casamayor and Diaz!
casamayor couldnt hold kindelans jockstrap.. and i love el Cepillo ... if i remember they used to train a lot together, and casamayor could not touch Kindelan even though Joel was a featherweight

diaz...baby bull.... i like but not in kindelan's class.
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casamayor couldnt hold kindelans jockstrap.. and i love el Cepillo ... if i remember they used to train a lot together, and casamayor could not touch Kindelan even though Joel was a featherweight

diaz...baby bull.... i like but not in kindelan's class.
If he can hang with Castillo, Freitas and Corrales then Kindelan is getting tamed.

Diaz would war with Kindelan and it looks like Diaz would be all over him for 12 rounds.
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Old 07-08-2007, 10:03 AM   #9
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If he can hang with Castillo, Freitas and Corrales then Kindelan is getting tamed.

Diaz would war with Kindelan and it looks like Diaz would be all over him for 12 rounds.
Thats my point if El Capillo (a good cuban boxer) can hang with Chico, Popo and JLC, then a ATG cuban boxer like Mario would tear them and Casamayor a new asshole. Kindelan is quicker, hits harder, and doesnt get hit.

How do you war with one of the best defences i've ever seen in boxing...He doesn't get involved in wars.

I give Diaz a chance but in all likelyhood Kindelan will just be too elusive.

There is no lightweight from the last 15 years pro or amateur who is skilled as Kindelan. The Kindelan who faced Khan was a shadow of himself, and I include the olympic final he won so easily. That is why Khan will have to wait a while til he fights someone on his level. Although the transition from am to pro does make a difference, but not in skill levels.
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Old 07-08-2007, 01:25 PM   #10
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Thats my point if El Capillo (a good cuban boxer) can hang with Chico, Popo and JLC, then a ATG cuban boxer like Mario would tear them and Casamayor a new asshole. Kindelan is quicker, hits harder, and doesnt get hit.

How do you war with one of the best defences i've ever seen in boxing...He doesn't get involved in wars.

I give Diaz a chance but in all likelyhood Kindelan will just be too elusive.

There is no lightweight from the last 15 years pro or amateur who is skilled as Kindelan. The Kindelan who faced Khan was a shadow of himself, and I include the olympic final he won so easily. That is why Khan will have to wait a while til he fights someone on his level. Although the transition from am to pro does make a difference, but not in skill levels.
They are all P4P and/or great fighters. Kindelan is an amateur. I'd hate to see how he'd hold up with Corrales, Freitas and Castillo coming for him. Kindelan is talented but the pros is a different ball game.

By the way I just realised we are talking about Mario Kindelan. For some reason up until now I thought we were talking about the Aussie who won the WBO title. His name escapes me.

Nevertheless, Kindelan is very talented and skilled but don't even think about him in the pros. The pros is a different ball game. Does he have the chin, the heart, can he go 12, can he take the body attack, does he have the mental smarts etc
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another question? who in the lightweight division at present is a harder test than Kindelan
Get a grip mate Unless I'm horribly mistaken Kindelan was an amateur Pro and amateur are two different entities all together. Dont get me wrong Kindelan was an incredibly talented guy but wouldnt have done **** all in the pros
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Get a grip mate Unless I'm horribly mistaken Kindelan was an amateur Pro and amateur are two different entities all together. Dont get me wrong Kindelan was an incredibly talented guy but wouldnt have done **** all in the pros
Don't be silly he would have been a world champion at the very least.
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Old 07-09-2007, 08:08 AM   #13
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I am not talking about a good amateur....I am talking about an ATG one.

If Casamayor has made it, and Solis, and Khan do make it. Kindelan would be world champion easy. He beat Tito and schooled Cotto and Khan.

His footwork was excellent, his chin rock solid, the only thing that would have to improve is head movement.

Generally, good amatuers become good pros....great amateurs become great pros.

Sugar Ray Robinson 85 wins 0 losses 100%
Oscar De La Hoya 223 wins 5 losses 97.8%
Nigel Benn 41 wins 1 loss 97.6%
Oliver Mccall 31 wins 1 loss 96.9%
Sugar Ray Leonard 145 wins 5 losses 96.6%
Cory Spinks 78 wins 3 losses 96.3%
**** Mctaggart 610 wins 24 losses 96.2%
Leon Spinks 178 wins 7 losses 96.2%
Mike McCallum 240 wins 10 losses 96%
Kostya Tszyu 270 wins 12 losses 95.7%
Zab Judah 110 wins 5 losses 95.7%
Juan Diaz 105 wins 5 losses 95.5%
Shane Mosley 230 wins 12 losses 95%
Ricky Hatton 76 wins 4 losses 95%
Marco Antonio Barrera 45 wins 3 losses 93.8%
Mario Kindelan 290 wins 20 losses 93.5%
Pernell Whitaker 201 wins 14 losses 93.5%
Tommy Hearns 115 wins 8 losses 93.5%
Floyd Mayweather Jr 84 wins 6 losses 93.3%
'Winky' Wright 56 wins 4 losses 93.3%
Julio Caesar Chavez 14 wins 1 loss 93.3%
Michael Spinks 93 wins 7 losses 93%
Naseem Hamed 62 wins 5 losses 92.5%
Ken Norton 24 wins 2 losses 92.3%
Floyd Patterson 40 wins 4 losses 90.9%
Roy Jones Jr 121 wins 13 losses 90.3%
Allan Green 55 wins 6 losses 90.1%
Lennox Lewis 94 wins 11 losses 89.5%
Felix Trinidad 51 wins 6 losses 89.5%
Mike Tyson 48 wins 6 losses 88.9%
Jean-Marc Mormeck 13 wins 2 losses 86.7%
Ingemar Johansson 61 wins 10 losses 85.9%
George Foreman 22 wins 4 losses 84.6%
Rocky Marciano 9 wins 3 losses 75% (reported 30 undefeated bouts in US Army making 92.9%)
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Old 07-09-2007, 08:39 AM   #14
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Odds on Kindelan would have been something special but there is a distinct difference between pros and amateurs.

Kindelan was very special. He was like a pro condensed into four rounds. Often a slow first round to figure you out and gauge what you had. Then it was all down hill after that as he picked you apart.

Even when he won by a point, it's not because his opponent was that good, its because he did not need to step it up another notch. He had that other gear in reserve.

What Khan did was amazing. People have forgotten how sensational Khan was as an amateur. 17yr old silver medalist, beat the best P4P amateur in the world and his moves spoke for themself.
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I am not talking about a good amateur....I am talking about an ATG one.

If Casamayor has made it, and Solis, and Khan do make it. Kindelan would be world champion easy. He beat Tito and schooled Cotto and Khan.

His footwork was excellent, his chin rock solid, the only thing that would have to improve is head movement.

Generally, good amatuers become good pros....great amateurs become great pros.

Sugar Ray Robinson 85 wins 0 losses 100%
Oscar De La Hoya 223 wins 5 losses 97.8%
Nigel Benn 41 wins 1 loss 97.6%
Oliver Mccall 31 wins 1 loss 96.9%
Sugar Ray Leonard 145 wins 5 losses 96.6%
Cory Spinks 78 wins 3 losses 96.3%
**** Mctaggart 610 wins 24 losses 96.2%
Leon Spinks 178 wins 7 losses 96.2%
Mike McCallum 240 wins 10 losses 96%
Kostya Tszyu 270 wins 12 losses 95.7%
Zab Judah 110 wins 5 losses 95.7%
Juan Diaz 105 wins 5 losses 95.5%
Shane Mosley 230 wins 12 losses 95%
Ricky Hatton 76 wins 4 losses 95%
Marco Antonio Barrera 45 wins 3 losses 93.8%
Mario Kindelan 290 wins 20 losses 93.5%
Pernell Whitaker 201 wins 14 losses 93.5%
Tommy Hearns 115 wins 8 losses 93.5%
Floyd Mayweather Jr 84 wins 6 losses 93.3%
'Winky' Wright 56 wins 4 losses 93.3%
Julio Caesar Chavez 14 wins 1 loss 93.3%
Michael Spinks 93 wins 7 losses 93%
Naseem Hamed 62 wins 5 losses 92.5%
Ken Norton 24 wins 2 losses 92.3%
Floyd Patterson 40 wins 4 losses 90.9%
Roy Jones Jr 121 wins 13 losses 90.3%
Allan Green 55 wins 6 losses 90.1%
Lennox Lewis 94 wins 11 losses 89.5%
Felix Trinidad 51 wins 6 losses 89.5%
Mike Tyson 48 wins 6 losses 88.9%
Jean-Marc Mormeck 13 wins 2 losses 86.7%
Ingemar Johansson 61 wins 10 losses 85.9%
George Foreman 22 wins 4 losses 84.6%
Rocky Marciano 9 wins 3 losses 75% (reported 30 undefeated bouts in US Army making 92.9%)

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Anyone selling magic beans, Tony Blair and an Amateur Boxing Record
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