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Old 07-07-2007, 07:47 AM   #1
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Default I Bet A Peak James Toney Could Give Greb A Hard Night

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Old 07-07-2007, 07:50 AM   #2
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Stylistically at least, Toney would be right in it. Greb would sure make him fight.
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:53 AM   #3
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Default Re: I Bet A Peak James Toney Could Give Greb A Hard Night

Obviously. James Toney can give more or less anyone a tough night. Even Roy Jones was made to miss shots that he just isn't used to missing. I think only Griffin made Jones miss shots in the same way.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:59 AM   #4
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Toney may have made him look silly -at least until Toney got winded. He was an elusive banger at his best who could make strong offense -even swarmers, look costly.

But Greb could take over later based on sheer malevolence and superior stamina. Especially if Toney is fat.
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:03 AM   #5
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Default Re: I Bet A Peak James Toney Could Give Greb A Hard Night

one thing is, greb can't beat toney by KO.

but i would go for greb UD.
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Old 07-07-2007, 11:22 AM   #6
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Not if he fights like Dave Tiberi who body punched Toney and gave him a bad beating, Greb would have stopped him with body shots and Mickey Walker also but I think Harry would just win UD, Tiberi gave Toney a beating
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Old 07-07-2007, 06:20 PM   #7
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Obviously. James Toney can give more or less anyone a tough night.
Yes. Though Haggler may have handed him his head.

It's the style clash i'm most interested in.

Anyone brave enough to go for a Toney win?
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:34 PM   #8
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well from what we know of greb he was a workrate machine he would not stop throwing punches. he didnt have the whiplash knockout power but the wearing down effect of the punches.

um i havnt got time
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Old 07-07-2007, 08:21 PM   #9
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Default Re: I Bet A Peak James Toney Could Give Greb A Hard Night

I can't see Greb having much difficulty with Toney. Toney tended to be drained there, and could only fight hard in spurts (funny how things don't change much). A skilled fighter like Greb would exert such a workrate and pressure on Toney that he wouldn't be able to hang.

Greb UD
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:10 PM   #10
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Default Re: I Bet A Peak James Toney Could Give Greb A Hard Night

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Not if he fights like Dave Tiberi who body punched Toney and gave him a bad beating, Greb would have stopped him with body shots and Mickey Walker also but I think Harry would just win UD, Tiberi gave Toney a beating
A bad beating???
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:20 PM   #11
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i think toney would have a chance of beating Greb in his prime toney was a classy boxer
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:27 PM   #12
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Default Re: I Bet A Peak James Toney Could Give Greb A Hard Night

Judging by the limited amount of footage on "the human windmill," it looks as though his nick name refers to his technique as much as it does his volume of punchers. If I had to choose based on this, I would say Toney sees these punches coming a mile away. Greb would be in fore a night similar to Iran Barkley.

I just don't think a realistic view of Greb can be made head to head. There is not enough footage of his fights to analyze his style.

I am not picking Toney, I don't think it is fair in this situation. You can argue Greg is better on paper, but you have no argument to make about who was better on film.
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Old 07-08-2007, 06:07 AM   #13
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Default Re: I Bet A Peak James Toney Could Give Greb A Hard Night

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A peak James Toney ,not that weight drained caricature that Jones Jnr humbled,gives anyone problems imo.
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:21 AM   #14
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Default Re: I Bet A Peak James Toney Could Give Greb A Hard Night

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Yes. Though Haggler may have handed him his head.

It's the style clash i'm most interested in.

Anyone brave enough to go for a Toney win?
The one who fought Barkley, then sure.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:27 PM   #15
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Default Re: I Bet A Peak James Toney Could Give Greb A Hard Night

I think Greb is overated a bit in H2H sense compared to modern fighters. That said I'd say Greb would take a some sort of decison. But a SD for Toney wouldn't surprise me.
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