David Tua

luke · 07-16-2012, 04:07 PM

Should of been world champ, Where did it all go Wrong for Him.. anyway anyone have any news on him, where is he at with his career? a RM with Shane Cameron?

Webbiano · 07-16-2012, 04:48 PM

I the timing if Tua's career and the time he faced his opponents where just all wrong for him. He beat future world champs like Ruiz, Maskaev and Rahman and former world champ Moorer and a draw against Rahman. Not too mention 2 fighters he lost to in world title bouts where arguably a top 5 Heavyweight (H2H and ATG) as well as a monster in Ibeabuchi would suggest

Tua fought the right people at the wrong time, as well as the wrong people at the wrong time, whilst never getting the oppurtunities against champions who he was more that capable of beating and in my eyes, flat out embarrassing them

Seamus · 07-16-2012, 05:02 PM

I believe he is retired. His style (though not his power) had a short shelf life. I don't remember the specifics, but he had a lot of outside, i.e. managerial, promoter, issues that stymied his progress. That, and his style (and a guy with the attributes of a prime Lewis) caused the window to close pretty quickly for him.

janitor · 07-16-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by luke

Where did it all go Wrong for Him..

When his work ethic started to slip.

Webbiano · 07-16-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by janitor

When his work ethic started to slip.

That too. Realistically if Tua was dedicated enough, he coulda been a cruiserweight. Even when against the likes of Ike early on in his career he wasn't in exactly prestine condition. If Tua had been dedicated throughout his whole career, I'm sure he would have held a version of the heavyweight title at least once.

Seamus · 07-16-2012, 05:25 PM

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That too. Realistically if Tua was dedicated enough, he coulda been a cruiserweight. Even when against the likes of Ike early on in his career he wasn't in exactly prestine condition. If Tua had been dedicated throughout his whole career, I'm sure he would have held a version of the heavyweight title at least once.

You ever meet David Tua?

He ain't no, nor ever would be, a cruiser.

LittleRed · 07-16-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Seamus

You ever meet David Tua?

He ain't no, nor ever would be, a cruiser.

Seamus you're operating under the frankly preposterous assumption that you need two legs to be a boxer...

luke · 07-16-2012, 05:50 PM

I dont think He could make Cruiser, but maybe if he stripped he would of been 220-225, i think that would of hindered his style, but made his career last longer, i know he has terrible arthuritus.

Webbiano · 07-16-2012, 05:56 PM

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You ever meet David Tua?

He ain't no, nor ever would be, a cruiser.

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201 pounds in his first professional bout would suggest otherwise Seamus

Straight Shoota · 07-16-2012, 05:57 PM

Poorly managed then lost the dedication

Seamus · 07-16-2012, 06:28 PM

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201 pounds in his first professional bout would suggest otherwise Seamus

201 at 19 years old. He was still a boy.

I saw him spar after the Ruiz fight. He was a total block of granite. No way, no how he could have gotten under 200 during his prime.

That said, the mid-220's were his best weight. Coming into the Lewis fight at 247 was just stupid.

salsanchezfan · 07-16-2012, 07:18 PM

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Seamus you're operating under the frankly preposterous assumption that you need two legs to be a boxer...

:bodzianowski:

round15 · 07-16-2012, 07:24 PM

I was disappointed when he fought Lewis. He let his weight get the better of him and did nothing but chase Lennox around the ring. Should have been in better shape for that one.

bullpen · 07-16-2012, 07:28 PM

Overrated. Ike beat him up Mavrovic gave him life or death....who'd he beat? Lewis beat him easy...hell Barret beat him...though later.

Webbiano · 07-16-2012, 08:25 PM

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Overrated. Ike beat him up Mavrovic gave him life or death....who'd he beat? Lewis beat him easy...hell Barret beat him...though later.

07-16-2012, 04:07 PM	#1
luke Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,152 vCash: 500	David Tua Should of been world champ, Where did it all go Wrong for Him.. anyway anyone have any news on him, where is he at with his career? a RM with Shane Cameron?
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07-16-2012, 04:48 PM	#2
Webbiano Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: England Posts: 3,036 vCash: 500	Re: David Tua I the timing if Tua's career and the time he faced his opponents where just all wrong for him. He beat future world champs like Ruiz, Maskaev and Rahman and former world champ Moorer and a draw against Rahman. Not too mention 2 fighters he lost to in world title bouts where arguably a top 5 Heavyweight (H2H and ATG) as well as a monster in Ibeabuchi would suggest Tua fought the right people at the wrong time, as well as the wrong people at the wrong time, whilst never getting the oppurtunities against champions who he was more that capable of beating and in my eyes, flat out embarrassing them
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Seamus Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lisboa, Portugal Posts: 10,060 vCash: 1000	Re: David Tua I believe he is retired. His style (though not his power) had a short shelf life. I don't remember the specifics, but he had a lot of outside, i.e. managerial, promoter, issues that stymied his progress. That, and his style (and a guy with the attributes of a prime Lewis) caused the window to close pretty quickly for him.
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07-16-2012, 05:50 PM	#8
luke Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,152 vCash: 500	Re: David Tua I dont think He could make Cruiser, but maybe if he stripped he would of been 220-225, i think that would of hindered his style, but made his career last longer, i know he has terrible arthuritus.
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Straight Shoota Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Back...Way Backkkkk Posts: 967 vCash: 500	Re: David Tua Poorly managed then lost the dedication
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07-16-2012, 07:24 PM	#13
round15 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,685 vCash: 1000	Re: David Tua I was disappointed when he fought Lewis. He let his weight get the better of him and did nothing but chase Lennox around the ring. Should have been in better shape for that one.
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07-16-2012, 07:28 PM	#14
bullpen Moody Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Coventry, RI Posts: 6 vCash: 500	Re: David Tua Overrated. Ike beat him up Mavrovic gave him life or death....who'd he beat? Lewis beat him easy...hell Barret beat him...though later.
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