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Old 07-22-2012, 04:13 PM   #31
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I dont think theres any shame in ducking Roy Jones until he was shit2shot. Wouldnt you? Especially if you were a holder of the smallest, most worthless title at SMW, you wouldnt feel confident of fighting a superstar who wins everything at multiple weights? You'd run like fcuk.

Look at what Joe did do, rather than didnt, and give him credit for massively overacheiving for a minor title holder. Joe preferred to look after himself than takethe tough fights, he was a smart guy who knew boxing can ruin your health if you arent built with a granite chin, and he wanted to avoid that.
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:33 PM   #32
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Damn, Bailey and headbanger are nowhere to be seen. Zod is the most unbiased perspective on the RJJ issue.
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:26 PM   #33
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Very damning quote by Calzaghe saying he didn't want tough fights, just big money. Still, it's clear from his CV that was always the case.
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:34 PM   #34
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Come on Bailey, you can do better than that
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:43 PM   #35
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Damn...general zod KO1 Team Elite
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:54 PM   #36
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Damn...general zod KO1 Team Elite
How do you work that out?
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Old 07-22-2012, 06:49 PM   #37
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It was well known in boxing that the risk of fighting Calzaghe was great for any top fighter, as the chances of Calzaghe winning was great.
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Old 07-22-2012, 07:21 PM   #38
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fucking jesus, this has 60 pages written all over it from some outstanding posters



general zod - great opening post

bailey - outstanding instant retreat

realsoldier in the house - BOOM!!

joe boxer in the house - BOOM!!

knockout artist in the house - BOOM!!

mind reader in the house - BOOM!!

louden in the house - BOOM!!



I'm gonna be busy smashing the fuck out of fart snorklers in every corner from esb but from time to time i'm gonna drop back in on this thread, and if i see worthy cause, then i will be lacing up the gloves and i will be coming out swinging for the ko against some true esb greats.



"I WANNA GOOD CLEAN FIGHT"

"RESPECT MY COMMANDS AT ALL TIMES"

"ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE CHALLENGER OR HIS CHIEF SECOND"

"ANY QUESTION FROM THE CHAMPION OR HIS CHIEF SECOND"


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Old 07-22-2012, 07:23 PM   #39
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fucking jesus, this has 60 pages written all over it from some outstanding posters



general zod - great opening post

bailey - outstanding instant retreat

realsoldier in the house - BOOM!!

joe boxer in the house - BOOM!!

knockout artist in the house - BOOM!!

mind reader in the house - BOOM!!

louden in the house - BOOM!!



I'm gonna be busy smashing the fuck out of fart snorklers in every corner from esb but from time to time i'm gonna drop back in on this thread, and if i see worthy cause, then i will be lacing up the gloves and i will be coming out swinging for the ko against some true esb greats.



"I WANNA GOOD CLEAN FIGHT"

"RESPECT MY COMMANDS AT ALL TIMES"

"ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE CHALLENGER OR HIS CHIEF SECOND"

"ANY QUESTION FROM THE CHAMPION OR HIS CHIEF SECOND"


"ALRIGHT, LETS GET IT ON, C'MON"


Good to see ya Headbanger!
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Old 07-22-2012, 07:26 PM   #40
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Good to see ya Headbanger!

evening champ

12.24am here and up at 8am to give a lecture at cambridge university on the importance of profile views in the morning, so excuse my departure, i shall return (and expect another 54 pages of the same old argument by the time i do)
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Old 07-22-2012, 08:39 PM   #41
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evening champ

12.24am here and up at 8am to give a lecture at cambridge university on the importance of profile views in the morning, so excuse my departure, i shall return (and expect another 54 pages of the same old argument by the time i do)
Actually... In honor of our ATG wars back in the day, I am gonna withdraw from the debate too...

If someone says something i absolutely cant stand, then maybe I will jump in..
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:30 AM   #42
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I'm up for this one to be fair. We're just missing Imperial, Knockout Artist, and the always friendly Loudon.

I'm here just enjoying the beat down Zod is putting on
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:04 AM   #43
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I dont think theres any shame in ducking Roy Jones until he was shit2shot. Wouldnt you? Especially if you were a holder of the smallest, most worthless title at SMW, you wouldnt feel confident of fighting a superstar who wins everything at multiple weights? You'd run like fcuk.

Look at what Joe did do, rather than didnt, and give him credit for massively overacheiving for a minor title holder. Joe preferred to look after himself than takethe tough fights, he was a smart guy who knew boxing can ruin your health if you arent built with a granite chin, and he wanted to avoid that.
Hi mate, I agree with everything you've said. I don't blame him for doing any of that, but the thing is, he likes to play the victim, telling everyone that he chased Roy for 5 or 6 years, and he was desperate for the fight, but Roy avoided him etc. He's lied all through his career to protect his ego.

Apparently he wanted the big fights, but he couldn't get any of them. What exactly did he do to get a big fight? He didn't move up to 175 or fight in the U.S. til he was 36 in 2008.

He wanted the crown Jewls to fight Roy. Fair enough, I would have wanted them. But who was going to pay him the crown jewels in 2002, when he was still relatively unknown outside of europe at the time?

I can't wait for Bailey to come on here! I exposed Joe's lies, on a thread a few days ago, and apparently I was just splitting hairs ha!

Regards, Loudon.
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:10 AM   #44
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Zod,

This thread is too good! It's the equivalent of Roy vs Griffin II. I hope we get loads of pages, but I can't see it. You've included too much evidence ha! Bailey's not going to come on here and try and defend that, it'd be impossible.

Regards, Loudon.
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:48 AM   #45
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He wanted the crown Jewls to fight Roy. Fair enough, I would have wanted them. But who was going to pay him the crown jewels in 2002, when he was still relatively unknown outside of europe at the time?

I can't wait for Bailey to come on here! I exposed Joe's lies, on a thread a few days ago, and apparently I was just splitting hairs ha!

Regards, Loudon.
well fair enough, boxers often do have huge egos.

I think Bailey has done a Calzaghe-style runner now tbh, though I am sure he will, in that Baileyway, be calling out over his shoulder that he schooled you whilst he scampers away behind a cut and pasting of a HUGE post of irrelevancies.

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