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Old 05-11-2013, 01:37 PM   #1
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Default Vitor Belfort - longevity in the sport vs TRT use.

Incredibly, he made his UFC debut in 1997 and is still very relevant at the top level of the sport. These are his losses:

Couture x2
Sakuraba
Liddell
Tito
Hendo
Overeem x2
Anderson
Bones

When you have ten career losses and the LEAST legendary guy who has beaten you is Alastair Overeem, that's a pretty special career.

He's had his ups and downs and generally loses to the top guys he faces, but only the top guys. If you aren't a legit A-lister, Vitor beats you and probably quickly. No other fighter has shown the ability to explode onto the main stage as a teenager and still be relevant and in title contention as he starts to move into his late 30s.

However, he is a habitual roider and TRT guy.

Which is more relevant to judging his career? His unfair advantage over most of his competition stemming from his TRT usage, or his surprising ability to stick around at the top level for so many years?

Does the roiding and the TRT severely damage his legacy, or does his unique staying power make up for it?

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Old 05-11-2013, 02:12 PM   #2
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Default Re: Vitor Belfort - longevity in the sport vs TRT use.

Doesnt really matter because all the guys from that era were users so we can rate him off a level playing field he didnt have an unfair advantage in most cases

His longevity and steroid use are linked though, years of using has created a beast that is still relevant today. However if vitor didnt have TRT he would be finished, so to answer your question I think its not his staying power that saves his legacy against ped accusations as his staying power is helped by steds and TRT. However vitor seems like one of the biggest juicers of the sport, up in the wand shogun and overeem leagues he always looked jacked so it should be noted
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Default Re: Vitor Belfort - longevity in the sport vs TRT use.

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Incredibly, he made his UFC debut in 1997 and is still very relevant at the top level of the sport. These are his losses:

Couture x2
Sakuraba
Liddell
Tito
Hendo
Overeem x2
Anderson
Bones

When you have ten career losses and the LEAST legendary guy who has beaten you is Alastair Overeem, that's a pretty special career.

He's had his ups and downs and generally loses to the top guys he faces, but only the top guys. If you aren't a legit A-lister, Vitor beats you and probably quickly. No other fighter has shown the ability to explode onto the main stage as a teenager and still be relevant and in title contention as he starts to move into his late 30s.

However, he is a habitual roider and TRT guy.

Which is more relevant to judging his career? His unfair advantage over most of his competition stemming from his TRT usage, or his surprising ability to stick around at the top level for so many years?

Does the roiding and the TRT severely damage his legacy, or does his unique staying power make up for it?

The best way to understand this is Dave Tate..
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While you can abuse roids and wreck your endocrine system, hormone use when done right is like pulling an ace out of your sleeve. Hormones can unlock your potential further than you otherwise could. It can prolong your career as well.

Just folks don't understand it and abuse it. Dave Tate is a guy who was a world class powerlifter, he's basically an old strength athlete who has been there, done that, knows the ins and outs of pretty much all peds and is known to be brutally honest. He equips pretty much all of the American Football gyms as well, worked under Louie Simmons, he's super legit if there are any doubts.

You will see, guys will be able to use trt to extend their careers and that's a great thing. Problem is guys pulling the "Ace" card early, getting caught and not using the drugs, cycling correctly and wrecking their endocrine systems. Things can go wrong and it gets really ugly.. I'm certain Vitor wrecked his system early in his career, and now probably needs daily injections. Problem with that is, you know the doctors are going to put them on the high threshold rather than smack dab in the middle, they are 8's.

What I'd like to see are guys blood panels disclosed so we can see who's rolling at 8 all the time.

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