Renan Barao

Rob_Floyd · 07-22-2012, 03:39 PM

Where do you think he is on the P4P list after last night? Do you think he can beat Cruz?

He is on a 30 fight unbeaten streak, which is currently the longest in MMA by far, considering Lombard's was broken last night. I'm not sure who number two is now (Anderson and Jimmo?)

His best wins:

Rony Mariano Bezerra
Chris Cariaso
Cole Escovedo
Brad Pickett
Scott Jorgensen
Urijah Faber

I think he has a really good shot at beating Cruz.

Vic-JofreBRASIL · 07-22-2012, 04:21 PM

Well, like I said I´m not sure if he´ll beat Cruz.....I hope you´re right though Rob, when you said he can beat Cruz.....
He´ll certainly be more exciting as a champion than Cruz IMO.....

thewinfella · 07-22-2012, 04:32 PM

Barao for me is just outside the top 10 P4P , and yes , he has a very very good chance at beating Cruz after what i saw last night

I will add that i was bitterly disappointed Faber didn't go to his wrestling , 3 or 4 half hearted attempts at a single , and that was that , he must of known going into the fight Barao was going to be stalking and looking to strike , i know Barao is superb on the ground but Faber has a pretty good top game / base , good enough to handle Barao from the top IMHO

Other side to that argument , Barao's TDD looked " very solid " , maybe Faber was deterred by Barao's strength once they locked up

Either way this guy is gonna be a real handful for Dominic Cruz

BobDigi5060 · 07-22-2012, 04:57 PM

Renan Barao will finish him in the championship rounds.

He is the truth, but stiill a little green. Cruz won't be at his best coming off knee surgery.

Matty lll · 07-22-2012, 06:15 PM

I think he defintely has the ability to at the very least give CRuz a real tough fight, maybe even beat him.

SugarShane_24 · 07-22-2012, 07:32 PM

My opinion, Cruz is a better striker than Faber. More mobile and fleetfooted too.

Cruz-Barao will be a stand-up war.

Barao is more powerful on all 4 limbs though.

I'd favor Cruz, but won't be surprised if Barao takes it.

Either way, I see a close tussle.

rekcutnevets · 07-22-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd

Where do you think he is on the P4P list after last night? Do you think he can beat Cruz?

He is on a 30 fight unbeaten streak, which is currently the longest in MMA by far, considering Lombard's was broken last night. I'm not sure who number two is now (Anderson and Jimmo?)

His best wins:

Rony Mariano Bezerra
Chris Cariaso
Cole Escovedo
Brad Pickett
Scott Jorgensen
Urijah Faber

I think he has a really good shot at beating Cruz.

I would have him as the favorite over Cruz, and honestly might have favored him before last night. I wanted to see him against a wrestler of Faber's caliber, and he delivered; but that is a different style match-up from what Cruz offers.

I feel that Cruz has found a way to use his athleticism to his advantage, and he finds a way to out strike people with grappling as a strong suit. Against Barao, Cruz will be facing a strong submission fighter that has better stand-up. Particularly in the kicking department.

I think that a lot of Cruz' in and out movement will be thwarted by Barao's leg kicks, and I don't think Cruz' exceptional core strength ever comes into play because Barao won't care anything about taking him down.

I think that getting injured and allowing Barao to rise to the top of the heap has Cruz' title in serious jeopardy.

thewinfella · 07-23-2012, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SugarShane_24

My opinion, Cruz is a better striker than Faber. More mobile and fleetfooted too.

Cruz-Barao will be a stand-up war.

Barao is more powerful on all 4 limbs though.

I'd favor Cruz, but won't be surprised if Barao takes it.

Either way, I see a close tussle.

Hmm interesting opinion that !! , what does fleet footed mean ?? I'm not being a cunt here I'm just wondering if you mean flat footed in which case that would put him at a disadvantage ??

thewinfella · 07-23-2012, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rekcutnevets

I would have him as the favorite over Cruz, and honestly might have favored him before last night. I wanted to see him against a wrestler of Faber's caliber, and he delivered; but that is a different style match-up from what Cruz offers.

I feel that Cruz has found a way to use his athleticism to his advantage, and he finds a way to out strike people with grappling as a strong suit. Against Barao, Cruz will be facing a strong submission fighter that has better stand-up. Particularly in the kicking department.

I think that a lot of Cruz' in and out movement will be thwarted by Barao's leg kicks, and I don't think Cruz' exceptional core strength ever comes into play because Barao won't care anything about taking him down.

I think that getting injured and allowing Barao to rise to the top of the heap has Cruz' title in serious jeopardy.

Good post that , accurate ,

Matty lll · 07-23-2012, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by thewinfella

Hmm interesting opinion that !! , what does fleet footed mean ?? I'm not being a cunt here I'm just wondering if you mean flat footed in which case that would put him at a disadvantage ??

Fleet footed means someone is quick, agile, light on their feet. That sort of thing

Ne5ville14 · 07-23-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by thewinfella

Hmm interesting opinion that !! , what does fleet footed mean ?? I'm not being a cunt here I'm just wondering if you mean flat footed in which case that would put him at a disadvantage ??

As in Dungeons and Dragons rule 3.5, Fleet Foot feat means that you can run your full speed and turn 90 degree without any problem...

But I think Matty III explained it alot better then I did... !

thewinfella · 07-23-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Matty lll

Fleet footed means someone is quick, agile, light on their feet. That sort of thing

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Originally Posted by Ne5ville14

As in Dungeons and Dragons rule 3.5, Fleet Foot feat means that you can run your full speed and turn 90 degree without any problem...

But I think Matty III explained it alot better then I did... !

Thank you Sir's , never heard the term before

thewinfella · 07-23-2012, 11:19 AM

Im just re watching this fight , last night was a bit hazy , and what I'm seeing is a striker (Barao) against a wrestler who believes he can strike

Barao is one of the current boxer / grapplers in the sport who seems to have the complete package for that particular style , superb stand up both hands and kicks , his range / distance control is something to behold , he's like Aldo , poise , balance , power , speed this kid has everything , he really does

Faber made the mistake of standing there with Barao for too long , lots of movement yes , lots of faints and level changing , but he never shot in ?? , why faint and change levels if your not going to shoot ?? , by the 3rd round Faber was too predictable , and in the end became an easy target for the excellent Barao

There is a difference between Cruz and Faber , there's a few actually but the main one is that Cruz has a better wrestling for MMA game than Faber , its more dominant and its more effective , if Faber locks up with somebody he'll drop for a double , if he has someone hurt he'll shoot for a double , Cruz will push a pace and make you defend a TD or 2 , or 3 or 4 , the kids relentless , very fit , very strong , very athletic

I see this fight (Cruz Barao) as one of the most intriguing and fascinating matches i think i can remember there ever being in recent times , its literally a super fight for the purists , cannot wait !!!

Ne5ville14 · 07-23-2012, 12:07 PM

I starting to think Faber kryptonite are leg kicks... !

Vic-JofreBRASIL · 07-23-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ne5ville14

I starting to think Faber kryptonite are leg kicks... !

Dedé Pederneiras said something like that to Renan on the corner during the fight....

07-22-2012, 03:39 PM	#1
Rob_Floyd Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 4,713 vCash: 847	Renan Barao Where do you think he is on the P4P list after last night? Do you think he can beat Cruz? He is on a 30 fight unbeaten streak, which is currently the longest in MMA by far, considering Lombard's was broken last night. I'm not sure who number two is now (Anderson and Jimmo?) His best wins: Rony Mariano Bezerra Chris Cariaso Cole Escovedo Brad Pickett Scott Jorgensen Urijah Faber I think he has a really good shot at beating Cruz.
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07-22-2012, 04:21 PM	#2
Vic-JofreBRASIL Vic East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Santos Posts: 8,653 vCash: 1166	Re: Renan Barao Well, like I said I´m not sure if he´ll beat Cruz.....I hope you´re right though Rob, when you said he can beat Cruz..... He´ll certainly be more exciting as a champion than Cruz IMO.....
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07-22-2012, 04:32 PM	#3
thewinfella The Golden Boy East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 7,231 vCash: 75	Re: Renan Barao Barao for me is just outside the top 10 P4P , and yes , he has a very very good chance at beating Cruz after what i saw last night I will add that i was bitterly disappointed Faber didn't go to his wrestling , 3 or 4 half hearted attempts at a single , and that was that , he must of known going into the fight Barao was going to be stalking and looking to strike , i know Barao is superb on the ground but Faber has a pretty good top game / base , good enough to handle Barao from the top IMHO Other side to that argument , Barao's TDD looked " very solid " , maybe Faber was deterred by Barao's strength once they locked up Either way this guy is gonna be a real handful for Dominic Cruz
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07-22-2012, 04:57 PM	#4
BobDigi5060 East Side MMA East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: TX Posts: 5,454 vCash: 553	Re: Renan Barao Renan Barao will finish him in the championship rounds. He is the truth, but stiill a little green. Cruz won't be at his best coming off knee surgery.
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07-22-2012, 06:15 PM	#5
Matty lll Sweet Scientist ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 2,450 vCash: 500	Re: Renan Barao I think he defintely has the ability to at the very least give CRuz a real tough fight, maybe even beat him.
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07-22-2012, 07:32 PM	#6
SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the few, the proud, the Philippines Posts: 4,407 vCash: 75	Re: Renan Barao My opinion, Cruz is a better striker than Faber. More mobile and fleetfooted too. Cruz-Barao will be a stand-up war. Barao is more powerful on all 4 limbs though. I'd favor Cruz, but won't be surprised if Barao takes it. Either way, I see a close tussle.
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07-23-2012, 11:19 AM	#13
thewinfella The Golden Boy East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 7,231 vCash: 75	Re: Renan Barao Im just re watching this fight , last night was a bit hazy , and what I'm seeing is a striker (Barao) against a wrestler who believes he can strike Barao is one of the current boxer / grapplers in the sport who seems to have the complete package for that particular style , superb stand up both hands and kicks , his range / distance control is something to behold , he's like Aldo , poise , balance , power , speed this kid has everything , he really does Faber made the mistake of standing there with Barao for too long , lots of movement yes , lots of faints and level changing , but he never shot in ?? , why faint and change levels if your not going to shoot ?? , by the 3rd round Faber was too predictable , and in the end became an easy target for the excellent Barao There is a difference between Cruz and Faber , there's a few actually but the main one is that Cruz has a better wrestling for MMA game than Faber , its more dominant and its more effective , if Faber locks up with somebody he'll drop for a double , if he has someone hurt he'll shoot for a double , Cruz will push a pace and make you defend a TD or 2 , or 3 or 4 , the kids relentless , very fit , very strong , very athletic I see this fight (Cruz Barao) as one of the most intriguing and fascinating matches i think i can remember there ever being in recent times , its literally a super fight for the purists , cannot wait !!!
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07-23-2012, 12:07 PM	#14
Ne5ville14 Rationalist by default... ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 4,326 vCash: 500	Re: Renan Barao I starting to think Faber kryptonite are leg kicks... !
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