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Old 07-25-2012, 02:38 PM   #76
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Default Re: Should Harry Wills be rated above Jack Dempsey?

I have Dempsey 2 spots ahead.
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:44 PM   #77
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:27 PM   #78
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afterall, he was just as dominant in johnson/dempsey's era and beat better competition than dempsey did.

H2h, i laugh when people say wills is "made" for dempsey. I didn't realize 6'3 210lb heavyweights with strength, power, skills, athleticism were made for 185lb champions. Clumsy, uncoordinated, unskilled big men like fulton, willard, firpo, morris were made to order for jack..but we are talking about a big man(wills) who actually knew how to fight(unlike those guys). Perhaps jack with his come forward style would have been made for harry wills. Jack never fought a big man who actually knew how to fight. Jack never fought a big man who was world class in both punching abilities, and the skill department. Wills would have been a major step up in competition for jack.
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:38 PM   #79
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RU, what did you expect ? Hatred of Dempsey devours some posters...
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:29 PM   #80
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How much of Fred Fulton, Harry Wills and Carl Morris have you seen on film to make comparisons and offer your assessment/descriptions ?

Are you in fact just talking out of your ass ?
What do you think other than SQ is a very bored guy ?
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:36 PM   #81
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Default Re: Should Harry Wills be rated above Jack Dempsey?

By the way, in all seriousness, the answer to this question is No.
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:26 AM   #82
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"a great fighter. Maybe Billy Miske was too"

You can't prove it off his record. About the time he was fighting Dempsey, he was losing twice to Kid Norfolk (once by official decision), twice to Harry Greb, and also to Battling Levinsky.

Miske seems to have been a good, solid contender, but a bit short of the top men of his time.

He also beat Levinsky several times, as well as Jack Dillon.
Kid Norfolk was probably a great fighter too.
Greb certainly was.

Most of these guys mentioned were possibly GREAT fighters.
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:27 AM   #83
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Norfolk was great.
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Old 07-26-2012, 07:45 AM   #84
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Norfolk was great.

Yes he was .. another terrible victim of his times ...
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Yes he was .. another terrible victim of his times ...
in what way ?
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