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Old 07-25-2012, 12:14 PM   #31
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By the way welcome back as it looks like your posting more-

Few tips-

Provide more analysis-

Less smack talk to newbies and please dont troll anymore

I reckon your points would be far better received-

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Old 07-25-2012, 12:20 PM   #32
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Rocky Marciano

He never stopped no matter what, a real animal

cant see vlad going 15 rounds with the rock
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:22 PM   #33
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Provide more analysis?!? Moi? You gotta' be ****ing shitting me?!

And it's not newcomers I cuss, it's noobs talking absolute bollocks. Well, anyone talking shit. I guarantee there are many noobs that could tell you I praised then and encouraged them to post more. You just see what you want to see.

EDIT: it's 'you're back' not 'your', sort it out.

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Old 07-25-2012, 12:24 PM   #34
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Rocky Marciano

He never stopped no matter what, a real animal

cant see vlad going 15 rounds with the rock
Can't see Marciano dealing with Wlad's humongous size and weight advantage. He'd get stopped IMO.
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:32 PM   #35
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Flea lets talk boxing lad plus your a mod (other forum) now so show some human decencey-


Who do you think has the third best resume at heavy-

1 Ali
2 L Lewis
Yeah, nice attempt at creating a username BTW, about 30 odd efforts IIRC.

Anyway, Louis most probably. After him, Holmes probably, I consider the likes of Weaver, Snipes and 'Spoon to be underrated and the era overlooked in general. But then again he had some truly hairy moments, and could be outjabbed (Williams) and did have some seriously close ones.

I rate his win over Mercer big time (badly wobbled by a ****ing jab though, admittedly a quality and heavy one) considering where he was at, no shame being blasted by Tyson but IMO, even though Mike Spinks is one of my absolute favourites, if the fight was happening next week and you asked me who would win I'd piss myself. Haven't rewatched the 2nd in a while but I felt Larry nicked it on last viewing, a few smart guys see it differently though so it requires a re evaluation I suspect. Remember feeling pretty strongly that Larry took that one though.

Cooney was not the monster Legendary Nights made him out to be let's not kid ourselves there.

What was his best scalp taking skillset, where they were at, how Larry performed and where he was in his career etc etc Would you say Norton?
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:09 PM   #36
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Can't see Marciano dealing with Wlad's humongous size and weight advantage. He'd get stopped IMO.
After headbutts coming back up,thumbing,elbows and other little tricks
wlad certainly wont be holding he' b on the run.

The bigger they are the harder they fall. Carmine Vingo
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:12 PM   #37
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He'd get stopped before he really warmed up in my opinion. Wlad wouldn't need to 'run' either, his jab would be too much for even Marciano's pretty deft head movement to navigate and Wlad won't have to look to find his man, so he can get his big shot off if he gains enough confidence.
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:39 PM   #38
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He'd get stopped before he really warmed up in my opinion. Wlad wouldn't need to 'run' either.

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Old 07-25-2012, 01:45 PM   #39
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Holmes is becoming overrated.

Probably the 4th best HW behind Louis, Ali and Lewis. He's top 5 anyway.
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:47 PM   #40
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Where's the come from?

When did Marciano ever face a heavyweight of Wlad's size and skill? While he faced some terrific punchers (and really terrific, Louis, Moore and Charles 3 of the greatest punchers of all time and Walcott had some beautiful form) Klitschko is a different beast. He is timid and rarely throws his best punch because of it (the left hook) but his size, force and form see him a genuinely harder puncher than anyone Marciano faced, if slower and not as cute.

Your basically means you have nothing. Vingo? Get ****ed. Well over six foot but also well under the modern cruiserweight limit without weight cutting. Worst. Comparison. Ever.
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:48 PM   #41
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Probably the 4th best HW behind Louis, Ali and Lewis. He's top 5 anyway.
I have him top 5 as well but he's not the unbeatable super beast and sadly underappreciated champion some are still making him out to be.
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:50 PM   #42
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Rocky Marciano

He never stopped no matter what, a real animal

cant see vlad going 15 rounds with the rock
Agreed. Waldo likely ends the fight long before the 11th.
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:58 PM   #43
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I don't think the Rock would beat Wlad, he's just to slow and his arms to short to be able to get quality punches off, its a stylistic nightmare for him. Wlad has a brilliant jab and commands the range very well, he's also totally against committing himself to attack now and will always be looking to retreat with his fast feet at the first hint of danger.
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:35 PM   #44
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Im no expert on the history of the heavyweight division, so can anyone tell me where/if Foreman fits into the picture...?
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:28 AM   #45
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Lennox Lewis? Yeah right. Ko'd twice in his prime.


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