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Old 12-30-2012, 11:42 PM   #31
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You know I actually think, having listened to a whole bunch of Foremans' commentary, that he was a knowledgeable guy. He just wasn't particularly articulate and was a contrarian by nature, which led to some of his more notable nonsense. You would have to be stubborn, to believe you could win the title back at that age.

I dunno, he's a weird one... He had some moments of true insight, but he also came up with some of the dumbest shit ever heard by a commentator.

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Yep. It would have been a much better fight though. I think their actual encounter was boring and foul filled.
It wasn't an exciting fight, but it also wasn't a Calzaghe-Hopkins.

The fight had moments of complex brilliance.
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Yep. It would have been a much better fight though.
Yes.

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Fair, I didn't mind it myself.
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Old 12-30-2012, 11:45 PM   #33
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S_S, that Loudon poster is all up your ass about you talking dirty about Roy. I won't bump the thread anymore though.
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Old 12-30-2012, 11:49 PM   #34
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Haha, yeah I saw his reply. I won't bother to counter him. Some Roy fans are as stubborn as ole' Georgy boy.

I don't necessarily disagree with him either though. Roy had legitimate reasons for failing to take Dariusz/Hopkins rematch fights. It's just that I think that perspective is pretty myopic when it comes to looking at fighters in a historical sense.

From a historical standpoint, I don't think his arguments/excuses for Roy's reluctance cut it.

Feel free to continue bumping the thread btw, it's a decent thread by General Forum standards.
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Old 12-30-2012, 11:55 PM   #35
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I'd probably agree with that. I don't recall any race riot concerns about those potential bouts.
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:00 AM   #36
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I dunno, he's a weird one... He had some moments of true insight, but he also came up with some of the dumbest shit ever heard by a commentator.



It wasn't an exciting fight, but it also wasn't a Calzaghe-Hopkins.

The fight had moments of complex brilliance.
Yeah that's what I mean. Sometimes George would say stuff just to disagree with Larry. And sometimes it made him seem like a grill salesman and not a professional boxer. He wasn't as good as Tyson, but didn't carry the risk of bodily harm that comes with sitting next to Mike.

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Fair, I didn't mind it myself.

Maybe I should rewatch it. It's been years and memories aren't perfect. I remember watching the second Harada-Jofre fight and being convinced that Jofre had dominated the early rounds and Harada nearly killed him at the end. Neither was quite true. I first scored the 12th round of Toney-McCallum 1 10-8. Upon rewatching it that was far to generous.

Is it worth a review?
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:04 AM   #37
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If it's been that long, I'd say it's worth it. It is, afterall, one of if not the most important fight(s) of the 1990s.
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