Pick Your 5 Fights That Never Happened.

[McGrain]

Originally Posted by PhillyPhan69

I am so glad this fight never came off...It could only enhance Greb's stellar resume and maybe shift the majority of P4P votes from SRR to himself. If he won he would be a near unanamous #1 P4P....if he lost it would not hurt his standing at all IMHO...

If Dempsey wins, some would credit it a solid win, but most especially his most ardent detractors would claim it was a blown up MW that he beat and count for nothing....If God forbid he loses....My how that would tarnish, his increasingly tarnished reputation...

It is a fight that I also would have loved to witness, but historically I see more negative outcomes to the fight than positive ones.

The first thing to say about it is that it almost guarantees Greb being captured on film.

Second of all, it pits the greatest fighter up until that point against perhaps the most highly regarded HW up until that point and would give a real feel for the era. It would be a defining fight.

Third, Greb beat every HW he beat at least once (even if, as in the case of Tunney, he beat him whilst he weighed 175lbs). He was qualified as a HW contender and most in the era saw him as such.

Fourth, it would indeed define Greb as the greatest fighter ever should he win or even come close.

Fifth, there is less to hold against Dempsey and he becomes nearer to the thing some want to say he is regardless - a fighter that dominated his era (though he still has the Wills problem obviously).

[TBooze]

Originally Posted by PhillyPhan69

I am so glad this fight never came off...It could only enhance Greb's stellar resume and maybe shift the majority of P4P votes from SRR to himself. If he won he would be a near unanamous #1 P4P....if he lost it would not hurt his standing at all IMHO...

If Dempsey wins, some would credit it a solid win, but most especially his most ardent detractors would claim it was a blown up MW that he beat and count for nothing....If God forbid he loses....My how that would tarnish, his increasingly tarnished reputation...

It is a fight that I also would have loved to witness, but historically I see more negative outcomes to the fight than positive ones.

Greb is only rated so highly in this, the Internet era, and the era of his time. Post the end of the second world war, he was very much an after thought; respected, but never in the debate for 'pound for pound' greatest.

Even in this era, he is 'only' known by hardcore boxing fans, he would still not be in an 'average' fancy's top 10.

[Senor Pepe']

Antonio Cervantes versus;

* Bruno Arcari
* Wilfred Benitez II (in Columbia)
* Roberto Duran
* Saensak Muangsurin
* Ken Buchanan

[LittleRed]

Originally Posted by turbotime

Am I missing something with that one?

Armstrong/Burley was more flash in the pan as Burley was operating at 154/160 and Armstrong was still battling it out at 135.

Clearly I meant a rematch. I want to see if Ray can beat a legitimate excellent light heavyweight like Maxim before putting him up against a great like Moore.

And Burley was regularly making 147 in the late 30's and was probably a more deserving challenger than say, Fritzie Zivic. If Robinson can get a took of flack for not fighting Burley when they weren't in the same division I don't see why Armstrong shouldn't have to best a big welterweight like Burley. Plus Burley probably would have won and a win here, unlike against Robinson, means not just a victory over an all time.great but a world title.

[Vic-JofreBRASIL]

Robinson vs Burley
Eder Jofre vs Lionel Rose
Holyfield vs Tyson when both were in prime...
Lewis vs Bowe
Dempsey vs Wills

[jdempsey85]

Roy jones fighting Collins,eubank+benn.Why didnt roy face these?

Hagler v hearns 2.Was there talk of this?

Gomez v sanchez 2.A diffrent outcome with a trained focussed gomez?

[Andrei00]

Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
Cassius Clay vs George Foreman II
Arturo Gatti vs Miguel Cotto

[Saintpat]

Frazier-Norton

Sweet Pea-Chavez II

Sal Sanchez-Little Red

Matt Saad Muhammad-James Scott

Packo-PBF, of course

[Vic-JofreBRASIL]

Originally Posted by Saintpat

Frazier-Norton

[round15]

Lewis vs Bowe (PROS)
Dempsey vs Wills
Ali vs Frazier 1968/1969
Shavers vs Foreman 70's & 90s
Hagler vs Leonard II

Honourable mention? Ruddock vs any of the heavyweights who ducked him in the 90's not named Tyson and Lewis.

Honourable wish? How would Teofilo Stevenson have faired against the late 60's and
70's heavyweight champions and contenders of the era had he turned pro?

[Longhhorn71]

SRL vs Pipino Cuevas

Duran vs Arguello

[Steel Kelly]

Jofre V Olivares
Duran V Pryor
Leonard V Pryor
DLH v Tszyu
Mosley V Trinidad

[Bill1234]

Holyfield-Tyson in 1990/1991
Lewis-Bowe
Robinson-Burley
De La Hoya-Wright
LaMotta-Graziano

[Sangria]

A few barn burners not mentioned:

Larry Holmes-Pinklon Thomas

Terry Norris-Felix Trinidad

Ike Quartey-Trinidad

Johnny Tapia-Mark 'Too Sharp' Johnson

[WhyYouLittle]

Johnson-Jeffries 1904
Dempsey-Wills 1919
Burley-Robinson 1943
Sullivan-Jackson 1892
Williams-Zale 1942