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Old 12-25-2012, 12:11 AM   #1
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Default Corner men that helped or hurt their fighters.

If Gerald Mcclellan had not fired Emanuel Steward before facing Nigel Benn, he would have won that fight and had a long boxing career. I just believe that Steward would have told Mcclellan to box in the later rounds instead of going for the kill.

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Old 12-25-2012, 01:55 AM   #2
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If Gerald Mcclellan had not fired Emanuel Steward before facing Nigel Benn, he would have won that fight and had a long boxing career. I just believe that Steward would have told Mcclellan to box in the later rounds instead of going for the kill.

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McClellan had a brain injury going into the Benn fight.

He is luck was going to run out no matter what.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:23 AM   #3
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I thought the between rounds job Ken Weldon did with Liakovich in the Brewser fight is as good as it gets. I thought it was better than Atlas did in the first Holyfield bout and he did a good job in that one himself.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:31 AM   #4
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I think Bouie Fisher brought out the best in B-hop both in prep and between rounds....

Papa Trinidad was IMHO horrible...I always felt that tito won in spite of him...gave some of the worse counsel...I think Tito was great, but that he could have been greater with someone else to tap into him.
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Old 12-25-2012, 07:37 AM   #5
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If Gerald Mcclellan had not fired Emanuel Steward before facing Nigel Benn, he would have won that fight and had a long boxing career. I just believe that Steward would have told Mcclellan to box in the later rounds instead of going for the kill.

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Benn would have knocked him out no matter who he had in his corner.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:06 AM   #6
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I thought the Petranelli's really hurt Hagler in the Leonard fight. Lou Duva hurt many a fighter in the corner, most notably Meldrick Taylor in the Chavez fight. Michael Katsidis' trainer was the worst corner man i've ever seen.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:21 AM   #7
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Norman Stone brought out the absolute best in John Ruiz and we and boxing as a whole are much better for it.

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Old 12-25-2012, 03:36 PM   #8
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Dominic Ingle was terrible in Kell Brooks corner against Carson Jones.
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:47 PM   #9
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If Gerald Mcclellan had not fired Emanuel Steward before facing Nigel Benn, he would have won that fight and had a long boxing career. I just believe that Steward would have told Mcclellan to box in the later rounds instead of going for the kill.

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ive seen the other replies to this already but im using your post to quote. What you and the other lads are saying may or may not be true but i tell you one thing, McClelland would have been pulled out a lot sooner IMO although thats not to say it would have made any difference to his condition. Surely those cornermen saw something that wasnt right cos there were a lot of people watchin on the tv who could see it
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This one is for McVea

Brady basically saved Jim Jeffries from loosing the title, when he fought Jim Corbett first time round.

trainer Tommy Ryan had Jeffries trying to outbox Corbett, and he was getting stuffed.

Brady removed Ryan from the ring and said something to the effect of "you are blowing it son, you have to start using pressure tactics".

Brady's advice turned the fight round dramatically, and perhaps changed the course of history!
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:11 PM   #11
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Atlas definitely gave Moorer the encouragement he needed ... and those faggots in Tyson's corner in the Douglas fight were beyond incompetent ... who knows, Tyson might have gotten away with a KO against Douglas if those homos did their job
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:14 PM   #12
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Atlas definitely gave Moorer the encouragement he needed ... and those faggots in Tyson's corner in the Douglas fight were beyond incompetent ... who knows, Tyson might have gotten away with a KO against Douglas if those homos did their job
It helps if you appoint your corner men based on ability rather than cronyism.

Douglas's corner would have directed him to a win that night.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:14 PM   #13
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Juan DOmingo Roldan's corner didn't help him much against Hagler.."you're doing great. keep doing what you're doing"...even when he was getting pasted
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:19 PM   #14
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Angelo Dundee, exaggerated a small tear in the corner of Clay’s gloves by pushing his thumb into the cut and pulling out the horsehair, then demanded a replacement glove between rounds just after Henry Cooper had connected his 'enrys hammer' of a left hook on Clays jaw dropping him near end of 4th round.

Buying Clay time possibly saved Clay that day, who knows, as we all know Clay/Ali had excellent recuperative capacity.
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Old 12-25-2012, 07:14 PM   #15
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Steward always was a big help in urging his fighters to go for the KO and not give the other guy a chance to land something stupid and win.

There are good videos of him ripping into Jermain Taylor, Lennox Lewis, and Wladimir Klitschko for being too passive and not letting their hands go.
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