Olympic boxing - worse than ever

[unclepaulie]

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Originally Posted by Ncc84

84 olympics was the worst for a long time. How can you think an olympic boxing event without cuba, ussr or any eastern bloc countries was good!?

[S_o_F]

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Originally Posted by S_o_F

He should be able to He's got the experience right?

And I didn't catch Diaz' fight in the games so far, but I've seen him in Golden Gloves and I think he is the truth.

Haha true, I think he might even had a bye this year so things are looking up already!.

It could have been first fight nerves but Diaz did what he had to do.

[Ncc84]

Originally Posted by unclepaulie

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Yes, I'm being serious. USA won most of the medals because most of the strongest boxing nations were boycotting.

[dealt_with]

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Originally Posted by Butch Coolidge

I reckon Team GB will top the medal table with Cuba in close second. Not seen anything from USofA to suggest they will pick up a medal.

Ukraine? The reason why we haven't seen their fighters is because they are the top seeds, don't jump the gun too early.

[S_o_F]

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Originally Posted by S_o_F

Ukraine? The reason why we haven't seen their fighters is because they are the top seeds, don't jump the gun too early.

Well no many GB boxers have boxed yet for the same reason

[Ncc84]

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Originally Posted by S_o_F

Ukraine? The reason why we haven't seen their fighters is because they are the top seeds, don't jump the gun too early.

I agree that Ukraine could well top the boxing medal table, they have 4 reigning world champions in the men's competition

[unclepaulie]

Originally Posted by Ncc84

Yes, I'm being serious. USA won most of the medals because most of the strongest boxing nations were boycotting.

I think you should look at that team again...

[rvrvrv]

I went to the boxing on Saturday night, managed to jump over some seats and hang out with Team USA. All of them were pretty cool and managed to chat with Jose Diaz Jr for 20 mins. The kid has the cuban world no.1 and current world champion next so going to be very tough to get through. Marcus Browne thought I worked with a promotional company and was trying to sign him so wouldn't say much to me!

[Cellz831]

#TeamUSA 4-0

[Stevenson#1]

Originally Posted by rvrvrv

Better than Lomachenko? The first boxer to win gold medals at 2 weights? No.

¿ What about Mario Kindelan ( the Cuban who beat Khan in Athens ) ? , he also have 2 golds at two different weight divitions ( and defeated Felix Trinidad TWICE in the process ) also ( 2000 & 2004 ) besides Lomachenko has only ONE gold at the moment not 2 , wait till he wins the other one . Peace .

[shaunster101]

Originally Posted by Cellz831

#TeamUSA 4-0

#it'sonlytheprelims

[Stevenson#1]

Originally Posted by pirao666

Just like Solis is better than Wlad, right retard?

I thought I told you to relax and enjoy the Olympics ....

[Ncc84]

Originally Posted by unclepaulie

I think you should look at that team again...

I see an olympics which was boycotted by almost every world champion. The reason the 84 olympics had a lot of medalists go on to be successful in the pros was because they were from a country where they can turn pro. there were some good winners like pernell, meldrick taylor, mark breland etc holyfield was there too, but not all of these would have won medals in other olympics, 84 was without
Soviet Union (so includes places like Ukraine)
Bulgaria
East Germany
Czechoslovakia
Hungary
Poland
Cuba
Romania

These are countries that win most of the medals in every other olympics. You seem to be rating an olympic's strength based on how many medals were won by the usa, and don't seem to be able to accept a non-usa champion could be as good as a champion from the usa.

[Stevenson#1]

Originally Posted by dealt_with

I'm a fan of Rigondeaux but he is not even close to flawless. He has a low percentage style and only the one style. Lomachenko is far more versatile with far better defence. Rigondeaux has fought poor opposition as a pro, as an amateur he still got tagged plenty, I can count on one hand the amount of times I've seen Lomachenko tagged cleanly.
Have a look at both Lomachenko's and Rigondeaux's olympic fights against Sultonov to get an indication of how they compare.
Keep in mind that Sultonov was greener against the already gold medallist Rigondeaux at Athens, Lomachenko fought a bigger, stronger, more experienced Sultonov at Beijing and beat him 13-1 with a great knockdown in the final round.
I have no doubt in my mind that Lomachenko is a better amateur than Rigondeaux was and will be a better pro.

Don't get me wrong , I like Lomachenko a lot but Rigo had a much better amateur career than him , Rigo's been a star in amateur circles since he was a child , he won EVERYTHING there was to be won in the ams in all levels and his fights there were legendary , always KOing people with lots of kds , very entertaining
Lomachenko is an exelent boxer who's had an exellent amateur career with a
great future in the pros but IMO he can't top Rigondeaux one , still he's very good a WILL WIN another gold in London , of that I'm sure . Peace .

[Big Ears]

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Originally Posted by dealt_with

Well no many GB boxers have boxed yet for the same reason

Except Anthony Ogogo, Josh Taylor and Fred Evans of course.....

They all won however.

No Cuban has fought yet, USA have had 4 guys fight (Joe Diaz, Jose Razmirez, Errol Spence and Terrell Gausha) so far and all have one.

Ukraine has had 1 fight so far and lost, Pavlo Ischenko vs Diaz of the US. Ischenko was possibly the weakest of the Ukranian team so his loss is no surprise.

So far this is imo the best Boxing competition we've had at the Olympics in a very long time. Some great fights, and the lack of live scoring + 3x3 min rounds has reduced the amount of running done by fighters in the lead.