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Old 07-30-2012, 04:01 AM   #1
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:48 AM   #2
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Really good read, I always like the trainer's perspective, they always take great credit for memorable aspects of big fights. I sometimes wonder just what is fact and what is fiction and whether the fighter sits there reading and thinking,"bullshit."

You'd think that a lot of the time there would be a massive clash of egos between trainer and boxer, but the respect the fighter has for their trainer is sometimes admirable, and so is the blunt way that a trainer tells a fighter how it is.

Anyway, great read!
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:16 AM   #3
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Great stuff Rumsfeld. I could listen to Manny talk boxing all day.
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:21 AM   #4
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An old Lennox vs. an old Tyson is the same thing in a different format.
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Enjoyed that, thanks
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Difficult to say really, we'll never know.

But to say a prime Tyson couldn't do what McCall and Rahman did is silly.
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:45 PM   #7
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Lennox couldn't do what Buster done?
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:53 PM   #8
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Lennox couldn't do what Buster done?
You don't catch what I'm saying.

Prime for prime, Lewis does not definitely beat Tyson, nor does Tyson beat Lewis.

Both had power but both could get beat even in their primes, thats my point.
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:59 PM   #9
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Lewis had limited impact by the Washington Times. Excerpts.

"On paper, it is an impressive record. But if you watched Lennox Lewis during his career, you know that his mark in boxing is not as impressive.

He reigned over the division during the one of its weakest eras. The best fighter he faced was Evander Holyfield, and that didn’t take place until 1999 — long past Holyfield’s prime and three years from Holyfield’s last hurrah, his upset knockout of Mike Tyson."

"Lewis also met Tyson way past his prime. When Lewis met Tyson in June 2002, he fought a disinterested and out-of-shape fighter who had already taken a beating from Holyfield six years earlier and arguably had reached his peak 14 years before, when he stopped Michael Spinks in one round in 1988. Trainer Emanuel Steward had to scream at Lewis in the corner to get him to finish off a pathetic Tyson in the eighth round.

The list of Lewis’ conquests is hardly a Hall of Fame roster: Phil Jackson, Zeljko Mavrovic, Shannon Briggs (who almost knocked Lewis out in the first round), Michael Grant, Frans Botha and David Tua among them.

How Lewis held the title three times is not a Rocky story. He won the vacant WBC belt the first time in May 1993 with a lackluster decision over Tony Tucker. He lost it a year later when Oliver McCall — a former Tyson sparring partner — knocked him out in two rounds."

"Give Lewis his due for being able to stay on or near the top of the division for 14 years. He was able to do what Bowe was not — dedicate himself to the training it would take to have a long career.

But in the ring — the ultimate stage for a fighter — Riddick Bowe left more of a mark on heavyweight boxing than Lewis did. Bowe’s three fights with Holyfield were only second to the Muhammad Ali-Joe Frazier trifecta for excitement and toughness. They were the last great heavyweight title fights of our time. And nothing Lewis did in the ring measures up."
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:03 PM   #10
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You don't catch what I'm saying.

Prime for prime, Lewis does not definitely beat Tyson, nor does Tyson beat Lewis.

Both had power but both could get beat even in their primes, thats my point.
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manny steward talks a lot of bollox when it comes to LL, he obviously liked lennox and rates him far better than anyone else
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:06 PM   #12
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Lots of 2-0 victories don't tell the full story Tyson is the ultimate McCall.


Hopkins/Taylor

The lesser known MAB/Junior Jones
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Really good read, I always like the trainer's perspective, they always take great credit for memorable aspects of big fights. I sometimes wonder just what is fact and what is fiction and whether the fighter sits there reading and thinking,"bullshit."

You'd think that a lot of the time there would be a massive clash of egos between trainer and boxer, but the respect the fighter has for their trainer is sometimes admirable, and so is the blunt way that a trainer tells a fighter how it is.

Anyway, great read!
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Very interesting article. Nice one.
Thank you all for taking the time to read!

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Great read. I really enjoyed it. Not sure I agree with all his conclusions though.
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