Why is Ingo Johansson in the Hall of Fame?

turbotime · 07-30-2012, 06:55 PM

He caught Patterson and stopped him, and was able to get Cooper while Sir H was coming off stoppage losses.

He only had 26 fights and was nearly crippled by Patterson in returns. Someone please school me on why he is a HOF'er?

janitor · 07-30-2012, 07:14 PM

Firstly, it is the "Hall of Fame", not the "Hall of Merit"!

When Time Magazine were criticised for appointing Joseph Stalin as "man of the year", they coldly replied that it was not meant to be a compliment!

Saintpat · 07-30-2012, 09:00 PM

Floyd Patterson supporters trying to build up their man's resume. Simple as that.

Rock0052 · 07-30-2012, 09:20 PM

Yeah, I never really got that one either.

Then again, every lineal Heavyweight champ up until Leon made it in regardless of how "great" they were. Except Marvin Hart.

Seamus · 07-30-2012, 09:24 PM

Corbett had something around 19 fights and only won 11. Jeffries was a rank amateur his entire career and ended up with 23 fights.

Both have been enshrined.

Senor Pepe' · 07-30-2012, 09:24 PM

The first 'Scandanavian' World Champion.

Extremely popular in Sweden, as well as Europe.

Successful businessman, and generally an excellent citizen.

Had the looks, and was considered the 'First Playboy Heavyweight Champion'.

Got out of the business, before he got his brains 'scrambled', and did not lend to
temptation to come back for 'super big' $$$ versus;
* Floyd Patterson IV
* Sonny Liston
* Cassius Clay

1959 Sports Illustrated 'Sportsman of the Year'

Seamus · 07-30-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

The first 'Scandanavian' World Champion.

Extremely popular in Sweden, as well as Europe.

Successful businessman, and generally an excellent citizen.

Had the looks, and was considered the 'First Playboy Heavyweight Champion'.

Got out of the business, before he got his brains 'scrambled', and did not lend to
temptation to come back for 'super big' $$$ versus;
* Floyd Patterson IV
* Sonny Liston
* Cassius Clay

1959 Sports Illustrated 'Sportsman of the Year'

His brains were later proven to be scrambled.

He did KO Machen like no one ever KO'd Machen.

WhyYouLittle · 07-30-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Seamus

He did KO Machen like no one ever KO'd Machen.

Yeah. If nothing else, he did have a good right. That's pretty much it, though.

LittleRed · 07-30-2012, 10:56 PM

Baby if loving Ingo is wrong, I don't want to be right.

WhyYouLittle · 07-30-2012, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleRed

Baby if loving Ingo is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Well... People just love a good bullshit anyway, don't they?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

1959 Sports Illustrated 'Sportsman of the Year'

turbotime · 07-30-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

The first 'Scandanavian' World Champion.

Extremely popular in Sweden, as well as Europe.

Successful businessman, and generally an excellent citizen.

Had the looks, and was considered the 'First Playboy Heavyweight Champion'.

Got out of the business, before he got his brains 'scrambled', and did not lend to
temptation to come back for 'super big' $$$ versus;
* Floyd Patterson IV
* Sonny Liston
* Cassius Clay

1959 Sports Illustrated 'Sportsman of the Year'

Yeah I guess that W over Patterson was a big win for European boxing.

But first Playboy Champ? That would be Johnson and Max Baer

Lord Tywin · 07-30-2012, 11:41 PM

First playboy world champion? Bullshit. Ingo was commonly photod in domestic bliss with his sexy as hell wife.

Anyone ever hear of Sullivan, Dempsey, Baer, Jack Johnson? Johannson couldnt compete with those guys in reality or public perception of being a playboy.

Also, he did NOT get out of the business before his brains got scrambled. He very famously suffered from pretty severe pugilistica dementia in his final years, much like Patterson and many other fighters.

Hookie · 07-30-2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by turbotime

He caught Patterson and stopped him, and was able to get Cooper while Sir H was coming off stoppage losses.

He only had 26 fights and was nearly crippled by Patterson in returns. Someone please school me on why he is a HOF'er?

You forgot to mention his 1st round KO win over Eddie Machen.

turbotime · 07-30-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hookie

You forgot to mention his 1st round KO win over Eddie Machen.

?? How horrible of me.

LittleRed · 07-30-2012, 11:55 PM

If you've seen the movie Thor, his hammer was based on Ingo's right hand. True fact.

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turbotime Future Hall Of Famer East Side VIP Join Date: May 2012 Location: LA/Canada Posts: 18,705 vCash: 816	Why is Ingo Johansson in the Hall of Fame? He caught Patterson and stopped him, and was able to get Cooper while Sir H was coming off stoppage losses. He only had 26 fights and was nearly crippled by Patterson in returns. Someone please school me on why he is a HOF'er?
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janitor P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19,047 vCash: 1000	Re: Why is Ingo Johansson in the Hall of Fame? Firstly, it is the "Hall of Fame", not the "Hall of Merit"! When Time Magazine were criticised for appointing Joseph Stalin as "man of the year", they coldly replied that it was not meant to be a compliment!
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Saintpat Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,194 vCash: 1000	Re: Why is Ingo Johansson in the Hall of Fame? Floyd Patterson supporters trying to build up their man's resume. Simple as that.
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Rock0052 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 8,354 vCash: 75	Re: Why is Ingo Johansson in the Hall of Fame? Yeah, I never really got that one either. Then again, every lineal Heavyweight champ up until Leon made it in regardless of how "great" they were. Except Marvin Hart.
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Seamus Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lisboa, Portugal Posts: 10,091 vCash: 1000	Re: Why is Ingo Johansson in the Hall of Fame? Corbett had something around 19 fights and only won 11. Jeffries was a rank amateur his entire career and ended up with 23 fights. Both have been enshrined.
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Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Why is Ingo Johansson in the Hall of Fame? The first 'Scandanavian' World Champion. Extremely popular in Sweden, as well as Europe. Successful businessman, and generally an excellent citizen. Had the looks, and was considered the 'First Playboy Heavyweight Champion'. Got out of the business, before he got his brains 'scrambled', and did not lend to temptation to come back for 'super big' $$$ versus; * Floyd Patterson IV * Sonny Liston * Cassius Clay 1959 Sports Illustrated 'Sportsman of the Year'
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LittleRed Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yoknapatawpha Posts: 2,612 vCash: 475	Re: Why is Ingo Johansson in the Hall of Fame? Baby if loving Ingo is wrong, I don't want to be right.
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Lord Tywin Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 759 vCash: 500	Re: Why is Ingo Johansson in the Hall of Fame? First playboy world champion? Bullshit. Ingo was commonly photod in domestic bliss with his sexy as hell wife. Anyone ever hear of Sullivan, Dempsey, Baer, Jack Johnson? Johannson couldnt compete with those guys in reality or public perception of being a playboy. Also, he did NOT get out of the business before his brains got scrambled. He very famously suffered from pretty severe pugilistica dementia in his final years, much like Patterson and many other fighters.
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LittleRed Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yoknapatawpha Posts: 2,612 vCash: 475	Re: Why is Ingo Johansson in the Hall of Fame? If you've seen the movie Thor, his hammer was based on Ingo's right hand. True fact.
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