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Old 07-31-2012, 12:18 PM   #16
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Are you retarded? Jones wasn't ever "the man". Collins offered Jones a unification fight for good money, which was easily a ppv fight. Genuine offers which Jones turned down. If you can't understand that is a confirmed duck, you shouldn't post on the subject.

Jones' ducking of DM isn't even up for debate.
you got to be british coz thats all im getting from your posts

okay lets try this..lets pretend jones didnt hold any titles at all...

roy jones had something that is worth more in this day and age - notoriety
he was widely believed to hold the mythical P4P 'title', which made him 'the man' in exactly the same way floyd has been 'the man' for years

so if junior witter (hypothetically) held a belt and offered floyd a unification, would you look at that the same way and say floyd ducked him?

if you want the man - go earn it
thats why nobody will remember junior witter or DM except the euros - they never left homesoil and earnt a shot at the big boys
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:19 PM   #17
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jones tested positive for that shit, thereby making him a roid cheat.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:22 PM   #18
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jones tested positive for that shit, thereby making him a roid cheat.
Logic bomb.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:23 PM   #19
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jones tested positive for that shit, thereby making him a roid cheat.
Not all all. It was a legal at the time, only the IBF considered a banned substance.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:26 PM   #20
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Not all all. It was a legal at the time, only the IBF considered a banned substance.
Definition of steriod cheat: Taking an illegal substance per the rules you are fighting under. The rules Jones were fighting under banned the substance he tested positive for, ergo, he's a steroid cheat.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:27 PM   #21
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Roy never ducked anybody
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:27 PM   #22
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:29 PM   #23
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Yes he was. The substance he tested positive for was an anabolic steroid.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:29 PM   #24
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Like I said it was a legal but only the IBF considered it banned. Roy didn't know this, hence why the IBF never stripped him.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:30 PM   #25
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Well, GJE more or less ended the debate now.

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Old 07-31-2012, 12:33 PM   #26
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Do you understand that the world does not revolve around you and your do whatever it takes, ruin as many people’s lives, so long as you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long so you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:35 PM   #27
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Bullshit

Collins - Got offered 3 million from HBO to fight Roy and turned it down

Benn - Also got offered 3 million from HBO to fight Roy but turned down it becuase he would have pay alot to get free from Don King because King had exclusive right to showtime. Benn admitted that Roy was a different class and was happy to be number 2 to Roy.

DM - Roy never ducked him, It didn't happen becuase neither fighter wanted to go into each other countries. Roy was the best and wanted in USA, because he didn't trust the judging in Germany and DM didn't want to fight in the USA

Eubank - Admitted the fight didn't happen because he didn't believe he could beat Roy

Liles - The fact couldn't happen because Don King had exclusive right to Liles and from 1991 through to 1998 King wasn't involved in a single HBO telecast and had exclusive rights over Showtime Championship Boxing

Nunn - Roy never ducked him. Roy moved up to fight Toney

Mcclellan - Would have happened if Mcclellan had beaten Benn, but Mcclellan lost and sustained career ending injuries.
clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. Collins was NEVER offered a fight with Jones. Collins offered Jones more than $3m, and it was actually real.

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Either post sources which back up any of your other nonsensical claims, or stfu noob.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:35 PM   #28
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Like I said it was a legal but only the IBF considered it banned. Roy didn't know this, hence why the IBF never stripped him.
Read the letter again & ask yourself why nothing ever happened with the 2nd sample & why the IBF never released details about which substance was found in his sample.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:36 PM   #29
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Well, GJE more or less ended the debate now.

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No he didn't. Androstenedione, which he got caught for, was legal at the time. The IBF are only people to considered it banned. Roy was not a cheat.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:39 PM   #30
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you got to be british coz thats all im getting from your posts

okay lets try this..lets pretend jones didnt hold any titles at all...

roy jones had something that is worth more in this day and age - notoriety
he was widely believed to hold the mythical P4P 'title', which made him 'the man' in exactly the same way floyd has been 'the man' for years

so if junior witter (hypothetically) held a belt and offered floyd a unification, would you look at that the same way and say floyd ducked him?

if you want the man - go earn it
thats why nobody will remember junior witter or DM except the euros - they never left homesoil and earnt a shot at the big boys
That's a weak comparison, son. Witter wasn't as well-known as Collins in the u.s., and his name was dirt after the stinky Judah and Corley fights. Who'd put the money up for Shitter anyhow .
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