Boxing  

Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Classic Boxing Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-02-2012, 02:20 AM   #1
TheSouthpaw
Champion
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 3,938
vCash: 500
Default Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

Ive been watchin alot of Norris footage lately, and im greatly impressed. His speed, accuracy, determination, power and heart....Where do true Norris fans rank him with the all time greats in the WW and MW divisions? I truely believe that any of them woulda had there hands full with this Animal...
TheSouthpaw is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 08-02-2012, 03:05 AM   #2
HawkFan16
Unshot/In My Prime
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,758
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

In terms of athleticism, he was extremely impressive. He also possessed fine technical skills. On his best night, he's a handful for almost anyone at the weight.

There are, however, two big problems with him: 1) inconsistency, and 2) a glass jaw. The 1st point almost ensures he gets caught by a few shots at some point in a fight.

He'd beat smaller, lighter-hitting guys who made brief stops at 154, such as Floyd or Whitaker, as they wouldn't be able to capitalize on his glass jaw really. I'd favor him over the 154 pound version of Mosley and against Wright. However, he'd be screwed against guys like Hearns, McCallum, Leonard, DLH, and Trinidad. All of those guys have significant height/reach advantages, solid to awesome technical skills, as well as the power necessary to shatter that glass jaw when they connect solidly- and they would at some point in a 12 round fight.

In short, Norris is an excellent, but deeply flawed fighter. He'd be a much more difficult H2H opponent if his chin wasn't so shaky.
HawkFan16 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2012, 05:39 AM   #3
PowerPuncher
P4P King
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 20,610
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

I think he would have dominated anyone in the WW division when he was around, so DLH, Trinidad, Whitaker, Quartey. Very talented boxer, he had chin issues but I think that was part focus, a 100% Norris on his game beats those guys
PowerPuncher is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2012, 06:27 AM   #4
MrBumboclart
Gatekeeper
ESB Full Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 332
vCash: 500
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

Very talented fighter with an awful chin. Such a shame really because it would have held him back in all the major fights.

I would have loved to see him fight Chavez. There was talk of a fight at 145 but nothing happened. The two hated each other in fact Norris bitch-slapped Chavez at a party after the Terrence Ali fight and started a free for all.
MrBumboclart is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2012, 08:27 AM   #5
salty trunks
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,192
vCash: 500
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

Certain fighters have everything but lack one thing that makes them ATG's. Norris' chin was his setback.
salty trunks is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2012, 09:19 AM   #6
DaveK
Vicious & Malicious
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,826
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

He's a great fighter for fans to watch. Highly entertaining. His soft whiskers is what made him so exciting, because even against the poor quality opponents, he got dropped sometimes.

He could look so great and be obviously so much better than the other guy, and you'd be thinking "man, why isn't he always mentioned among the greats?" and then he gets clipped- "Oh."

But I do think he has a shot against almost anyone at the weight, provided he fights a smart, focused fight. In general, he fails where others succeeded because unlike Tito, for instance, he had trouble recovering.

Trinidad would get dropped or buzzed and he'd be pissed and it would dial him in somehow. Norris had trouble recovering from such things. I don't know if it was that his mentality/confidence was shaken as a result, or if it was all physical. I'd guess a bit of both.
DaveK is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2012, 11:38 AM   #7
salsanchezfan
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 4,048
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

I agree with DaveK; Norris is one of the great "Yeah, but" fighters in history. Superb offensive arsenal, but as Powerpuncher pointed out, he dominated the welterweight division.

He was just too brittle to have too long a standing at the top had there been guys like Hearns or McCallum sharing the weight class. Lots of upside, but overriding flaws like lack of defense and an inability to absorb shots just meant he had some impressive winning streaks dotted with bad losses.
salsanchezfan is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2012, 11:45 AM   #8
Flea Man
มวยสากล
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: @ferociousflea
Posts: 39,875
vCash: 75
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

He's well overrated based on being aesthetically pleasing. Beat up past their best smaller guys and had a shit chin.
Flea Man is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2012, 11:46 AM   #9
Stevie G
Champion
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: London,England
Posts: 9,227
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

Quote:
Originally Posted by salty trunks View Post
Certain fighters have everything but lack one thing that makes them ATG's. Norris' chin was his setback.

Agreed. He was pretty good,but not in the elite. I can't see him beating the likes of Benitez,Hearns and a prime Leonard.
Stevie G is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2012, 12:40 AM   #10
TheSouthpaw
Champion
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 3,938
vCash: 500
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

The last thing I would call him is brittle..He was the total package, a hard puncher...very accurate, and a great finisher..He could have stood up to any of the greats....period
TheSouthpaw is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2012, 09:55 AM   #11
DaveK
Vicious & Malicious
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,826
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSouthpaw View Post
The last thing I would call him is brittle..He was the total package, a hard puncher...very accurate, and a great finisher..He could have stood up to any of the greats....period
Your last statement is the problem; his big problem was standing up and staying upright.... Against most greats, he doesn't stay standing up!
DaveK is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2012, 01:08 PM   #12
babaluma
Journeyman
ESB Jr Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 139
vCash: 500
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

Two names hold him back from ATG: Simon Brown and Julian Jackson....He has some big names on his record but Vaca, Leonard, Curry and Mugabi were well past their best...Saying that any fight would be fun while it lasted, I think if he had fought fantasy matches against Hearns or Gerald McClellan they would have been right up there with Hagler/Hearns!
babaluma is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2012, 02:05 PM   #13
Lester1583
Can you hear this?
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,213
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

Quote:
Originally Posted by babaluma View Post
Gerald McClellan
G-Man vs Norris is a borderline mismatch.

Last edited by Lester1583; 08-05-2012 at 02:19 PM.
Lester1583 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2012, 03:06 PM   #14
johnmaff36
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: ireland
Posts: 2,627
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

Frankenfrank in 3....2....1....
johnmaff36 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2012, 09:17 AM   #15
johnmaff36
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: ireland
Posts: 2,627
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Is Terry Norris an underated fighter?. Or could he have stood up to the greats?

apologies FF, i meant Red Rooster
johnmaff36 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Classic Boxing Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2013