too much running vs too much weights...whats worse???

[Kolya]

Originally Posted by highguard

are you watching the best of mr.spock
ehh point dexter

What the fuck is that even supposed to mean?

[scurlaruntings]

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[Mohak]

Originally Posted by Kolya

What the fuck is that even supposed to mean?

This thread has restored my faith in ESB.

[Kolya]

Originally Posted by Mohak

This thread has restored my faith in ESB.

Apparently 6'4 and boxing at 91kg makes me a nerd?

[dealt_with]

Can somebody be banned for being retarded? I think Highguard should be made an example of. His "I mean defined not ripped" spiel made me dumber just by reading it. May god have mercy on our souls.

[El Puma]

Originally Posted by dealt_with

Can somebody be banned for being retarded? I think Highguard should be made an example of. His "I mean defined not ripped" spiel made me dumber just by reading it. May god have mercy on our souls.

[LongJab]

Originally Posted by highguard

again my statement earlier stands

everyone on here is very ready to
attack negative aspect of weightlifting and weight training in general

but the same people always pretend to ignore the negative aspect of runners and running

HighGuard, here's the issue. I don't think anyone here has issues with weight training when it involves strength training for performance (think squats, deadlifts, etc). It's "Bodybuilding" where some have issues with. Why? Because it's for appearance not performance. And actually detrimental, when you consider added weight, lack of flexibility etc. Having an extra 1" on your arms won't make a damn bit of difference in the ring.

Now running is a different matter. Running is probably the easiest, most basic and most traditional form of conditioning. It's very versitle when you consider LSD, tempo runs, intervals, sprints, hills, etc. It also strengthens the legs and toughens the mind. The only real downside of running is injuries...

I apologize if I am adding a voice of reason here.

[Mohak]

Originally Posted by dealt_with

Can somebody be banned for being retarded? I think Highguard should be made an example of. His "I mean defined not ripped" spiel made me dumber just by reading it. May god have mercy on our souls.

Nah, let him be. He's like a retarded Bane, just terrorizing this thread with stupidity for no clear reason. I'm willing to sit it out to eventually see his grand master plan. Shine on you crazy diamond! Shine on!

[highguard]

Originally Posted by dealt_with

Can somebody be banned for being retarded? I think Highguard should be made an example of. His "I mean defined not ripped" spiel made me dumber just by reading it. May god have mercy on our souls.

i think God made an example of you at birth,
maybe your parents were sinful
so punished them a retarded ugly kid....


ohh the lord can be harsh at time

[highguard]

Originally Posted by Kolya

Apparently 6'4 and boxing at 91kg makes me a nerd?

not being a 6'4 57kg nerd obsessed with star trek and star wars
makes you a nerd....
ohh and also the glasses and pimples you must be covered in
does not help the issue....


please dont always believe your family when they tell your a strong boy
just like the boxers you watch on tv....

they are just being nice to you, ITS NOT TRUE

[highguard]

Originally Posted by Mohak

Nah, let him be. He's like a retarded Bane, just terrorizing this thread with stupidity for no clear reason. I'm willing to sit it out to eventually see his grand master plan. Shine on you crazy diamond! Shine on!

yes i am retarded because i dared to question the holy issue of running,
anyone who does this is retarded,

thank you for teaching me logic

[highguard]

Originally Posted by LongJab

HighGuard, here's the issue. I don't think anyone here has issues with weight training when it involves strength training for performance (think squats, deadlifts, etc). It's "Bodybuilding" where some have issues with. Why? Because it's for appearance not performance. And actually detrimental, when you consider added weight, lack of flexibility etc. Having an extra 1" on your arms won't make a damn bit of difference in the ring.

Now running is a different matter. Running is probably the easiest, most basic and most traditional form of conditioning. It's very versitle when you consider LSD, tempo runs, intervals, sprints, hills, etc. It also strengthens the legs and toughens the mind. The only real downside of running is injuries...

I apologize if I am adding a voice of reason here.

i like your statement in general, however when you say the only downside of running is injuries,
my friend isnt that supposed to be the biggest downside of any activity.....

about your statement of weight training vs bodybuilding...
i do see your point but squats and deadlifts are also a huge part of bodybuilding and when people want to know how to do them properly, they often read bodybuilding books or ask bodybuilders,

you mentioned injuries, bodybuilding does have some negatives as you mentioned but it is excellent for injury rehab, i know from personal experience and helps with getting stronger as well....

you mentioned looks, well yes bodybuilding is done by many people for this but so it is running....
example-i look too skinng so i start to lift weights
or i look to fat, ok time to start running

and when you mentioned toughening the mind, i dont think running is much tougher then lifting to failure which many bodybuilders do

and just like you said about running being versitle
so is lifting weights-bodybuilding, i mean there are a ton of excerises for anything you can think of

[highguard]

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please all ignorant people watch these videos

[Jdsm]

Originally Posted by highguard

i like your statement in general, however when you say the only downside of running is injuries,
my friend isnt that supposed to be the biggest downside of any activity.....

about your statement of weight training vs bodybuilding...
i do see your point but squats and deadlifts are also a huge part of bodybuilding and when people want to know how to do them properly, they often read bodybuilding books or ask bodybuilders,

you mentioned injuries, bodybuilding does have some negatives as you mentioned but it is excellent for injury rehab, i know from personal experience and helps with getting stronger as well....

you mentioned looks, well yes bodybuilding is done by many people for this but so it is running....
example-i look too skinng so i start to lift weights
or i look to fat, ok time to start running

and when you mentioned toughening the mind, i dont think running is much tougher then lifting to failure which many bodybuilders do

and just like you said about running being versitle
so is lifting weights-bodybuilding, i mean there are a ton of excerises for anything you can think of

The point has seemingly went straight over your head. Bodybuilding, as a 'sport' is crafting a physique that is considered 'aesthetically pleasing', by having as much muscle mass and as little body fat as possible and training for that purpose is absolutely pointless and detrimental to boxing performance. Yes most bodybuilders squat and deadlift, but that doesn't make them exclusively bodybuilding exercises, so I'm not really sure what your point was there.

I think most people up to date in this forum agree that weight training is a great tool to help with boxing, but training like a bodybuilder for boxing is retarded.

[highguard]

Originally Posted by Jdsm

The point has seemingly went straight over your head. Bodybuilding, as a 'sport' is crafting a physique that is considered 'aesthetically pleasing', by having as much muscle mass and as little body fat as possible and training for that purpose is absolutely pointless and detrimental to boxing performance. Yes most bodybuilders squat and deadlift, but that doesn't make them exclusively bodybuilding exercises, so I'm not really sure what your point was there.

I think most people up to date in this forum agree that weight training is a great tool to help with boxing, but training like a bodybuilder for boxing is retarded.

ofcourse training like a bodybuilder is retarded for a boxer, but so is training like a long distance runner,

and while you will be all to ready to pick on "bodybuilding style" training
why do you get so mad when i do the same for other side....

and when i mention the drawbacks of training like a long distance runner
ex,injuries,possible loss of muscle, lack of physical power etc
it gets ignored just the videos i posted