Indian Boxer alleges cheating

MATTYS · 08-05-2012, 06:45 AM

Over on box rec

Indian boxer beaten by Brit alleges 'cheating, cheating, cheating'
Manoj Kumar, the Indian light-welterweight beaten 20-16 in the Round of 16 by Team GB Captain Tom Stalker last night, has alleged that the London 2012 boxing tournament is full of 'cheating, cheating, cheating'.

Manoj (who presumably isn't looking forward to being at home with the Kumars) said: "It doesn’t look fair because he was going in one direction and the scores of 7-4 and 9-4 to him don’t justify that.

"It doesn’t look like an Olympic Games but more like a district competition because if it’s Great Britain in the ring, it doesn’t matter.

"It’s like a district competition where there is lots of cheating, cheating, cheating."

Unsurprisingly, one score the Indian team didn't object to was the tally of 13-11 donated by the judges to Kumar's team mate Krishan Vikas. Their sense of indignation at an inaccurate scorecard was nowhere to be seen then.

Vikas appeared to have been dominated by US welterweight Errol Spence and the tally announced was greeted by widespread astonishment. However, AIBA overturned the result and reinstated Spence - the second reversal of the tournament.

Mr Butt · 08-05-2012, 06:51 AM

i have watched most of the boxing and there have been some pretty bad decisions it seems that any scoring system will be bad if the judges are blind

BoxingAnalyst · 08-05-2012, 06:55 AM

I was pissed at the time of the fight, but I thought the Indian won.

Claypole · 08-05-2012, 07:02 AM

Richie Woodhall described Stalker as "fortunate" to win the second round. That was an understatement to say the least.

I can't remember the exact score for the 2nd round, but I believe Stalker won it by a fair margin, which was a bit odd considering he was dead on his feet and just looking to get through the round. The indian was ripped off over the 2nd round scoring and has every right to be upset.

Bronxbull666 · 08-05-2012, 07:12 AM

If cheating is what it takes to get our boxers some medals, then so be it. **** everyone else, we deserve to have the odds stacked in our favour for once!

BoxingAnalyst · 08-05-2012, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronxbull666

If cheating is what it takes to get our boxers some medals, then so be it. **** everyone else, we deserve to have the odds stacked in our favour for once!

Are you serious? Boxers should actually deserve a medal.

jonny v · 08-05-2012, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BoxingAnalyst

Are you serious? Boxers should actually deserve a medal.

u r totally correct,although the odd bit of luck here and there always plays a part in any long haul competition-wether it be avoiding injurys or nicking a tight contest.some of the decisions i have seen however hav been downright harsh to say the least.my main concern with it all is that our lads hav all seemed to gas badly after the second round which makes the third look even more one sided.

Uncle Rico · 08-05-2012, 07:44 AM

These games have been a sham. They really have.

Big J · 08-05-2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

These games have been a sham. They really have.

Yeah but this is always the case. The Commonwealth Games wasn't any better. Ogogo must have been one of the first fighters to defeat a boxer from India (and he didn't even land a scoring punch

)

bigjoet · 08-05-2012, 07:48 AM

if Stalker won that last night well Taylor should have won his but the Scot got shafted

Only F Evans has boxed well the rest look poor ... A Joshua and A Ogogo should be out AJ got out boxed AO got beat up Selby and Campbell were messy

freddieMaize · 08-05-2012, 07:52 AM

We had no such controversies during the Beijing Olympics.. Poor management. This will be spoken for a long time now.. What an embarrassment..

freddieMaize · 08-05-2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Big J

Yeah but this is always the case. The Commonwealth Games wasn't any better. Ogogo must have been one of the first fighters to defeat a boxer from India (and he didn't even land a scoring punch

)

Yeah that's right..

CamR21 · 08-05-2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by freddieMaize

We had no such controversies during the Beijing Olympics.. Poor management. This will be spoken for a long time now.. What an embarrassment..

There were plenty of controversies in Beijing actually

cam2010 · 08-05-2012, 07:59 AM

all international tournaments have their moments

Deels · 08-05-2012, 08:01 AM

At every Olympics there is always home bias and athletes and coaches expect it in advance. I think its nice that for once it is working in our favour. We have been on the wrong end of loads of decisions and scoring in events in previous olympiad

Stalker has beaten Kumar before in the amateurs so it cant be a huge suprise to Kumar to have lost. He should have worked harder, his fault. **** him

08-05-2012, 06:45 AM	#1
MATTYS Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 253 vCash: 500	Indian Boxer alleges cheating Over on box rec Indian boxer beaten by Brit alleges 'cheating, cheating, cheating' Manoj Kumar, the Indian light-welterweight beaten 20-16 in the Round of 16 by Team GB Captain Tom Stalker last night, has alleged that the London 2012 boxing tournament is full of 'cheating, cheating, cheating'. Manoj (who presumably isn't looking forward to being at home with the Kumars) said: "It doesn’t look fair because he was going in one direction and the scores of 7-4 and 9-4 to him don’t justify that. "It doesn’t look like an Olympic Games but more like a district competition because if it’s Great Britain in the ring, it doesn’t matter. "It’s like a district competition where there is lots of cheating, cheating, cheating." Unsurprisingly, one score the Indian team didn't object to was the tally of 13-11 donated by the judges to Kumar's team mate Krishan Vikas. Their sense of indignation at an inaccurate scorecard was nowhere to be seen then. Vikas appeared to have been dominated by US welterweight Errol Spence and the tally announced was greeted by widespread astonishment. However, AIBA overturned the result and reinstated Spence - the second reversal of the tournament.
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Mr Butt Champion East Side Guru Join Date: May 2009 Location: out preaching for the church of benn Posts: 5,861 vCash: 1054	Re: Indian Boxer alleges cheating i have watched most of the boxing and there have been some pretty bad decisions it seems that any scoring system will be bad if the judges are blind
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BoxingAnalyst Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: England Posts: 9,582 vCash: 500	Re: Indian Boxer alleges cheating I was pissed at the time of the fight, but I thought the Indian won.
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Claypole Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Harlow, UK Posts: 3,555 vCash: 922	Re: Indian Boxer alleges cheating Richie Woodhall described Stalker as "fortunate" to win the second round. That was an understatement to say the least. I can't remember the exact score for the 2nd round, but I believe Stalker won it by a fair margin, which was a bit odd considering he was dead on his feet and just looking to get through the round. The indian was ripped off over the 2nd round scoring and has every right to be upset.
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Bronxbull666 The Beast From The East ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: In bed Posts: 661 vCash: 75	Re: Indian Boxer alleges cheating If cheating is what it takes to get our boxers some medals, then so be it. **** everyone else, we deserve to have the odds stacked in our favour for once!
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Uncle Rico P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 19,869 vCash: 75	Re: Indian Boxer alleges cheating These games have been a sham. They really have.
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bigjoet Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 135 vCash: 500	Re: Indian Boxer alleges cheating if Stalker won that last night well Taylor should have won his but the Scot got shafted Only F Evans has boxed well the rest look poor ... A Joshua and A Ogogo should be out AJ got out boxed AO got beat up Selby and Campbell were messy
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freddieMaize Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 307 vCash: 200	Re: Indian Boxer alleges cheating We had no such controversies during the Beijing Olympics.. Poor management. This will be spoken for a long time now.. What an embarrassment..
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cam2010 newbie Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 44 vCash: 500	Re: Indian Boxer alleges cheating all international tournaments have their moments
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08-05-2012, 08:01 AM	#15
Deels newbie Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 34 vCash: 500	Re: Indian Boxer alleges cheating At every Olympics there is always home bias and athletes and coaches expect it in advance. I think its nice that for once it is working in our favour. We have been on the wrong end of loads of decisions and scoring in events in previous olympiad Stalker has beaten Kumar before in the amateurs so it cant be a huge suprise to Kumar to have lost. He should have worked harder, his fault. **** him
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