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Old 08-08-2012, 04:16 AM   #106
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Donaire was once in that position and Darchynian had the balls to give him a fight depsite the boxing world not even calling for the fight like they are with this one!! Donaire got his shot at Darchynian by beating dues that are nowhere near as good as Cordoba and Ramos. Rigo is without a doubt the most in demmand opponent for Donaire, don't deny it, no one, not you, not anyone here was making a case and hyping up a fight with Nishioka. Nishioka's a good opponent and one Donaire deserves credit for beating but if he moves up and doesn't fight Rigo next then he's being a pussy and deserves criticism.
He wasn't in that position, he had no hype about him, was supposed to be a routine defense for Vic.

Where do you see this huge demand for the Rigo fight? Certainly not at the gate, Arce does better there. There's a couple of dozen posters screaming for it, that's not huge demand.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:24 AM   #107
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That fact that he is fighting Nishioka is not the problem. I think people recongnize nishioka is a credible opponent and is accomplished at the weight and a good fighter. I think the problem is that people claim Donaire is ducking Rigo yet he does not want address that.

Regardless if you are one of the people who think Rigondeaux is not deserving of the fight, it is a fight the people want to see nonetheless. If i start i poll of which opponent people want to see Doanrie fight i guarantee you it will be Rigondeaux by a landslide here on ESB.

Doanire could easily shut those critics up who claim he is ducking, and there are alot of them, by simply fighting Rigondeaux. But the fact is that he has gone out of his way to discredit Rigondeaux, saying he would rather watch basketball play offs than Rigondeaux. He has said Rigondeaux is a boring fighter, when infact Rigondeaux is coming of a string of KO's while Donaires last few have been anything but exciting or displays of great boxing.

In conclusion, instead of Donaire taking the initiative to shut the critics up once and for all he fights others. They claim he is ducking because he is not fighting Rigondeaux. At the end of the day, it is true, he is not fighting Rigondeaux.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:27 AM   #108
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Really, you think beating a 0 defense prospect-champ qualifies you for p4p fights? What's your problem with Arce Donaire then? At least we know he'll throw back even if dropped with a jab.
I don't see why Rigondeaux schooling Ramos is insufficient but Vazquez losing his one step up in competition and Mathebula having a close fight with Caballero makes them loads more worthy for a P4P fight.

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So who's the bigger name? Where is Donaire in the name rankings below 135?
JuanMa is clearly a bigger name than Donaire, even with recent losses. Arce and Rafael Marquez probably are too. I'm not even sure Donaire is a bigger draw than Mares to be honest. Donaire has more network backing than those guys but much like Khan at 140 that doesn't mean he's actually a bigger draw.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:56 AM   #109
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I can't actually believe people are still complaining about Donaire not fighting Rigo. Nishioka is the number 1 in the division, and near P4P status. And Rigo is taking on another club fighter.
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Old 08-08-2012, 08:11 AM   #110
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I say it again; I'm ok with this fight, it's more competitive than Arce.
But saying Nishioka is p4p at his 37 yrs old and 1 yr lay off is ridiculous.
The fight can be sell only in a Rios undercard,nobody here knows Nishioka and Donaire just proved on his last fight that he isn't a big draw.
Nonito keeps changing his mind, he said after mathebula that he wanted another belt, then he went after Arce ,and now after Nishioka ( none of them hold any belt)
Rigo vs Donaire could have sell the same or better than Nishioka ,even as a main event with a decent undercard.And it's defenitly the fight 95% of fans want to watch.
If Rigo is fighting less opposition it's because he fights just whoever is available and with enough balls, he is calling anybody out,isn't just Donaire .
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Old 08-08-2012, 08:22 AM   #111
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If Rigo is fighting less opposition it's because he fights just whoever is available and with enough balls, he is calling anybody out,isn't just Donaire .
I like Rigo, he's a tremendous fighter. But why is he entitled to a shot at Donaire? People were slating Donaire for fighting Mathebula, his second fight at the weight. His first was against another former belt-holder, Vazquez Jr. Both these guys are better fighters than anyone Rigo has faced in the pros.
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Old 08-08-2012, 08:27 AM   #112
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I like Rigo, he's a tremendous fighter. But why is he entitled to a shot at Donaire? People were slating Donaire for fighting Mathebula, his second fight at the weight. His first was against another former belt-holder, Vazquez Jr. Both these guys are better fighters than anyone Rigo has faced in the pros.
I'm sorry but Mathebula was just terrible . Rigo would have taken him out early with a body punch KO
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:13 AM   #113
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Man I cant wait for this fight to happen.. this is a legit opponent and as much as I would like to see him fight Rigo this for sure is one great alternative..
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:26 AM   #114
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Ranking is enough. He fights the number 1 in the division. What the hell is wrong with that? Let Rigo Climb up the ladder and earn the shot.
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:35 AM   #115
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I can't actually believe people are still complaining about Donaire not fighting Rigo. Nishioka is the number 1 in the division, and near P4P status. And Rigo is taking on another club fighter.
You're playing games...

Nishioka isn't better than Rigo....
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:39 AM   #116
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Donaires copped a fair bit of back lash for ducking.

This is a good response from Nonito, should be a great fight.
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:48 AM   #117
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You're playing games...

Nishioka isn't better than Rigo....
No games. I'm a fan of Rigo. But achievements are more important than ability.
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:56 AM   #118
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Rigo is the most overrated boxer of this generation. 10 fights against forgettable opponents and his minions are accusing others of ducking.
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:00 AM   #119
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I like this fight.
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:01 AM   #120
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The guys u talking about Cord, Ramos are not better then Matha and Nish i mean lets cut that sh$t out. Rigo has 10 or 11 freaking wins. <<Let him proof himself by beating better fighters.
"Prove" what? What do you need proven to you, he's a title holder in the division, is recognized by anyone who knows shit about boxing as being one of the best in the division, if you ever watch boxing and have seen him in the ring it's pretty clear what he brings to the table, yet here you are making excuses for Donaire to duck this dude...pathetic as fuck.
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