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Old 08-06-2012, 11:38 AM   #1
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Default Recent Heavyweights Under LPR?

Which of the heavyweights from the past 25 years, great or not-so-great under modern rules, would flourish under London Prize rules?

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Old 08-06-2012, 11:39 AM   #2
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Impossible to say, really. Lots of guys will pick Ruiz though.
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:55 PM   #3
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Tyson on sheer enthusiasm for the era. He'd come out wearing his little thong and saying stuff like "Good show chaps, time for a bit of fisticuffs!" and doing that weird little stance they used and love it.
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:21 PM   #4
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a really strong guy with great stamina is made for the lpr. not many fit both those criteria.

david tua?
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:26 PM   #5
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Tyson on sheer enthusiasm for the era. He'd come out wearing his little thong and saying stuff like "Good show chaps, time for a bit of fisticuffs!" and doing that weird little stance they used and love it.
That was more the Broughton Prizefighting Rules. LPR was a 'little less barbaric'
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:44 PM   #6
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a really strong guy with great stamina is made for the lpr. not many fit both those criteria.

david tua?

tua is a great shout, so is george chuvalo, older foreman, john ruiz wouldnt be a bad shout, good spoiler would help him in those long long rounds, i for one love the lpr i want them to come back.
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:28 PM   #7
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Lets start with what is and in not useful.

Power may be of some use, but finishing ability is more or less completely nullified.

Chin is not as useful as recuperative powers.

Technical boxing ability is of some use.

Physical stamina is worth its weight in gold.

Strength and grappling ability can often be decisive.
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:41 PM   #8
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If Oliver McCall wasn't likely to have a fit and run out of the ring at some point in a prolonged fight, he could be a candidate.

With more of a mean streak, the big lug Valuev could have been a difficult foe similar to Willard in a long distance fight. More likely that he would try to jab his opponent for 40 rounds before quitting from frustration though, instead of using his massive size to wear them out.

Ruiz knew the clinch but he was prone to complaining and acting while being fouled himself, which would likely be looked down upon in LPR rules. He could also get knocked out cold as he was against Tua without being able to get up in several minutes. On the other hand he would be clever enough to come up with strategies abusing the ruleset and have the mentality to follow through with it, as a Charley Mitchell would.

I'd still go with the class and the size of a Lennox Lewis, a man who could adapt to his surroundings fairly well. Dealing with a man as big as him who did not have a tendency to run out of stamina would be extremely difficult, and he had the capability to ice an opponent to the point where they could not recover. His uppercut from the clinch would serve him even better than it did during his actual career.
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Lets start with what is and in not useful.

Power may be of some use, but finishing ability is more or less completely nullified.

Chin is not as useful as recuperative powers.

Technical boxing ability is of some use.

Physical stamina is worth its weight in gold.

Strength and grappling ability can often be decisive.
Straight punching, a good wrestler, and as you mention, excellent stamina and recuperative powers, are the way forward in LPR.
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:24 PM   #10
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a really strong guy with great stamina is made for the lpr. not many fit both those criteria.

david tua?
And sir, you have my pick.

Demonstrated great clout, great stamina and good pace... when he wasn't a lard ass.
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:47 AM   #11
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Lets start with what is and in not useful.

Power may be of some use, but finishing ability is more or less completely nullified.

Chin is not as useful as recuperative powers.

Technical boxing ability is of some use.

Physical stamina is worth its weight in gold.

Strength and grappling ability can often be decisive.
I think you have described Muhammed Ali, to a tee. I think he would be the greatest LPR fighter of all time, even though i know many disagree and place i him down the list. I back Ali under this ruleset to reign supreme. Maybe even more so then under Queensbury rules.
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:02 AM   #12
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Lets start with what is and in not useful.

Power may be of some use, but finishing ability is more or less completely nullified.

Chin is not as useful as recuperative powers.

Technical boxing ability is of some use.

Physical stamina is worth its weight in gold.

Strength and grappling ability can often be decisive.
Disagree with first 2, part 3 is underrated. Accumulative punishment would take it's toll

Under LPR you will have far more fighters quit or get knocked cold. You'll have men knocked cold too, who won't get up after 60seconds

Stamina is not that important given whenever you want a miniute's rest you just take a knee. What's stopping me from taking 10mins rest by taking 10 sit downs to get 10mins off? It's a spoilers dream and it would be a very boring, slow sport, not something that necessarily requires great stamina. Actually you could outspeed a fighter until you get tired and then go down to get a rest
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What's stopping me from taking 10mins rest by taking 10 sit downs to get 10mins off?
Your prospects of ever gettnig another top level fight.
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Your prospects of ever gettnig another top level fight.
It's an extreme example but tactical use of knock downs/rounds would be a major part of tactics
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:20 AM   #15
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It's an extreme example but tactical use of knock downs/rounds would be a major part of tactics
You're right, but it's a tightrope. People aren't going to turn out to watch a fighter who consistently protects supsect stamina by having a lie down whenever he's tired.
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