Who does Wlad have to beat in the next 2-3 years to move up to top 5-10 ATG?

SuzieQ49 · 08-06-2012, 02:55 PM

Take note, these "top contenders" actually have to be willing to face him, I've never seen top contenders so afraid to fight a champion out of fear of getting humiliated.

Smashgar · 08-06-2012, 03:03 PM

Vitali.

Lester1583 · 08-06-2012, 03:07 PM

Tyson Fury.

frankenfrank · 08-06-2012, 03:12 PM

D Real Deal .

ChrisPontius · 08-06-2012, 03:23 PM

Hard to say, but for top5, he needs quite a bit of work. Dominate the division for another 5 years or so; he needs to balance those losses out.

Top10? I think he's pretty close to getting there, a few more years on the top would do it for me. Wins over Povetkin (if he finally grows a pair), Fury and some other guys. Maybe a rematch with Haye if he beats aging big brother.

mcvey · 08-06-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzieQ49

Take note, these "top contenders" actually have to be willing to face him, I've never seen top contenders so afraid to fight a champion out of fear of getting humiliated.

Some one under 40?

FastHands(beeb) · 08-06-2012, 03:32 PM

Unfortunately for Wlad, I don't think there's enough class out there to elavate him to top 5...imo...

mcvey · 08-06-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzieQ49

Take note, these "top contenders" actually have to be willing to face him, I've never seen top contenders so afraid to fight a champion out of fear of getting humiliated.

Maybe automatically being tied up to a rematch should they win and, also mandatorily having to face the other brother, both to be promoted by K2, puts them off a bit?

Bokaj · 08-06-2012, 03:39 PM

Vitaly would be enough. At least if someone else doesn't get him first.

lufcrazy · 08-06-2012, 04:39 PM

He's my number ten right now.

To move up he just needs to continually defeat ranked contenders (of which wach is not).

At the moment his legacy is based upon dominance. If he wants to shortcut that he needs a prime dance partner. If haye can beat vitali, a rematch with wlad would be huge. That will boost him a few notches both achievement wise and resume wise.

He could also do with one of his victims going on to rule the division after him.

In terms of names i'm think adamek, arreola and povetkin. It's hard to tell who'll be a top contender two years down the line.

brb · 08-06-2012, 07:40 PM

1) Wach
2) Povetkin
3) Pulev/Ustinov
4) Perez
5) Wilder
6) Price
7) Fury

Helenius
9) Boytsov
10) Mitchell

If he beats 9 of these guys and he doesn't duck any challenger, then he will be my #3 HW of All-Time.

lufcrazy · 08-06-2012, 07:48 PM

Why is wach on the list? He's wholly unproven.

BoxingFanNo1 · 08-06-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brb

1) Wach
2) Povetkin
3) Pulev/Ustinov
4) Perez
5) Wilder
6) Price
7) Fury

Helenius
9) Boytsov
10) Mitchell

Add those guys to the record of any top 10 HW in history and it doesn't effect their position one bit imo. Yet you say that opposition elevates a boarderline top 10 HW to 3rd?

Seamus · 08-06-2012, 07:55 PM

Prime Larry Holmes.

PhillyPhan69 · 08-06-2012, 07:55 PM

Wlad needs to merely retire and wait 5 years or so. I rate him in the 11-13 range right now. When we have a few years to digest and remember his dominance and better understand his era I will be surprised if he does not creep into the 3-10 range...but 7 or 8 seems about as high as I would excpect him to go.

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Smashgar McMustache Nuthugger ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,608 vCash: 356	Re: Who does Wlad have to beat in the next 2-3 years to move up to top 5-10 ATG? Vitali.
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ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Holland Posts: 11,749 vCash: 238	Re: Who does Wlad have to beat in the next 2-3 years to move up to top 5-10 ATG? Hard to say, but for top5, he needs quite a bit of work. Dominate the division for another 5 years or so; he needs to balance those losses out. Top10? I think he's pretty close to getting there, a few more years on the top would do it for me. Wins over Povetkin (if he finally grows a pair), Fury and some other guys. Maybe a rematch with Haye if he beats aging big brother.
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FastHands(beeb) Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 637 vCash: 500	Re: Who does Wlad have to beat in the next 2-3 years to move up to top 5-10 ATG? Unfortunately for Wlad, I don't think there's enough class out there to elavate him to top 5...imo...
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Bokaj Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 12,310 vCash: 1000	Re: Who does Wlad have to beat in the next 2-3 years to move up to top 5-10 ATG? Vitaly would be enough. At least if someone else doesn't get him first.
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lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,711 vCash: 330	Re: Who does Wlad have to beat in the next 2-3 years to move up to top 5-10 ATG? He's my number ten right now. To move up he just needs to continually defeat ranked contenders (of which wach is not). At the moment his legacy is based upon dominance. If he wants to shortcut that he needs a prime dance partner. If haye can beat vitali, a rematch with wlad would be huge. That will boost him a few notches both achievement wise and resume wise. He could also do with one of his victims going on to rule the division after him. In terms of names i'm think adamek, arreola and povetkin. It's hard to tell who'll be a top contender two years down the line.
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brb Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 411 vCash: 500	Re: Who does Wlad have to beat in the next 2-3 years to move up to top 5-10 ATG? 1) Wach 2) Povetkin 3) Pulev/Ustinov 4) Perez 5) Wilder 6) Price 7) Fury Helenius 9) Boytsov 10) Mitchell If he beats 9 of these guys and he doesn't duck any challenger, then he will be my #3 HW of All-Time.
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lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,711 vCash: 330	Re: Who does Wlad have to beat in the next 2-3 years to move up to top 5-10 ATG? Why is wach on the list? He's wholly unproven.
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Seamus Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lisboa, Portugal Posts: 10,084 vCash: 1000	Re: Who does Wlad have to beat in the next 2-3 years to move up to top 5-10 ATG? Prime Larry Holmes.
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PhillyPhan69 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Salisbury, MD Posts: 3,710 vCash: 1000	Re: Who does Wlad have to beat in the next 2-3 years to move up to top 5-10 ATG? Wlad needs to merely retire and wait 5 years or so. I rate him in the 11-13 range right now. When we have a few years to digest and remember his dominance and better understand his era I will be surprised if he does not creep into the 3-10 range...but 7 or 8 seems about as high as I would excpect him to go.
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