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Old 10-29-2012, 11:22 PM   #2161
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Why is this thread even a sticky?.... Internationalbutt is nothing but a troll lewis nuthugger... There have been a lot of controversial stoppages/decisions in the last 10 years and this thread is a sticky...Mods should be impartial instead we get this shit thread
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:53 AM   #2162
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Why is this thread even a sticky?.... Internationalbutt is nothing but a troll lewis nuthugger... There have been a lot of controversial stoppages/decisions in the last 10 years and this thread is a sticky...Mods should be impartial instead we get this shit thread
Ok, so which one is more talked about than this? What other controversial fight deserves a thread more in this section?
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:10 AM   #2163
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He kind of is.
Lewis came back very strong. (thank Steward)
On outside Lewis had no chance, Steward "ordered" him to fight more on the inside, and chin checked Vitali.

But the "winner" writes history, and the history will be in big favour of Vitali and his Lewis loss. Besides Americans and Brits, Vitali isn't seeing hate anywhere and the loss is seen (by Klithuggers and a lot of casuals) as inconclusive or even as a win for Vitali. (This isn't meant to be pro Vitali but is something I'm seeing right now. Lewis is seen as the loser of the fight by a lot of people.(And Lewis wasn't the loser))

I think Lewis won the fight fair enough, for a big underdog Vitali did nice.

What Vitali did was showing that Lewis could be outfighted on the outside, and that Lewis can come back extremely strong with a new strategy (thanks Steward)

Edit:Kind of said the same thing twice...
Vitali showed iron chin and good outside work.
Lewis showed how quick he can adapt and turn the fight in his favour, proving once again he might have been the greatest of them all.
Vits deserves his accolades for his effort and the heart he showed, I don't think any reasonable fan would deny that. But hate brought isn't necessarily any nationality. I would venture to say any negatives brought against Vits isn't because he isn't liked. I personalty think he's been as good a heavyweight ambassador as almost any other. His hate is brought on by ridiculous nuthugging and the twisting of truth. I favor Lewis much higher historically and h2h, but I was always more a Klit fan than a Lennox one till the lies, unreasonable ASSumptions and overeating. I know it isn't all, but I firmly believe most do this because of skintone and are simply incapable of being objective. Did Vits deserve a rematch? Absolutely. Should it be held against Lewis that he retired? Absolutely not.
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:13 AM   #2164
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Vitali has two good rounds against Lewis. After Vitali realized he could not knock Lewis out with one punch, he quit. His trainer did not give the right advices.

Emanuel Steward gave Lennox Lewis the right advices and in round 3 Vitali was badly cut. After round 3 Vitali try to survive and Lewis becomes stronger and stronger.

The ref. gave Vitali 3 more rounds after he was badly cut but he could not use them.

Lennox Lewis won TKO 6!
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:38 AM   #2165
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Vitali has two good rounds against Lewis. After Vitali realized he could not knock Lewis out with one punch, he quit. His trainer did not give the right advices.

Emanuel Steward gave Lennox Lewis the right advices and in round 3 Vitali was badly cut. After round 3 Vitali try to survive and Lewis becomes stronger and stronger.

The ref. gave Vitali 3 more rounds after he was badly cut but he could not use them.

Lennox Lewis won TKO 6!
The lies and propaganda can never change the truth. Championship fights are 12 rounds, not 6. Vits gave a great effort but ended up in the deep end of the pool and being stopped. In the last two rounds he was clearly being outclassed and this was against an old, fat Lewis. Would EVERYONE have liked to see a rematch? No doubt. Was it necessary after already winning? Not at all. Now had Lewis ever come back this should and would rightfully be called a duck. But since he gad already beaten him and stayed retired Lewis should be applauded for his decision and sticking to it.
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Old 10-30-2012, 02:19 AM   #2166
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Lewis did not stop Vitali. Again, you're use of definitions of words to make your arguments are completely poor. I understand why you continue to do so because you have a poor amount of evidence.
TKO6. There's your evidence. The actual result of the fight.


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You're just dealing with the fact that only a doctor stopped the fight and Lewis himself got the shit pounded out of him. Vitali's punches did a huge amount of damage because they almost put Lewis on his ass 3x.

Lewis had a pathetic performance in reality. Vitali never knocks his opponents out in the early rounds because he's not an explosive puncher but the accumulation always set in at the 2nd half of the fight. Yet, Lewis was almost floored 3x in the first 6. I can't imagine the second half where Vitali always gets stronger and goes for the kill. Lewis never hurt Vitali once throughout the entire fight too, so it shows that the real result without the doctor stopping it was plainly obvious.
I can't imagine the second half of the fight either. That's because Vitaly couldn't make it that far.

Your theory is great if Lewis isn't allowed to fight back.

Look, Vitaly may have a plan to stop guys late. So what? It's no good if the other guy grinds you down faster.

That's what happened here. Steward told Lewis to turn it into a brawl after 2 rounds. 4 rounds later, the fight was over and Lewis had won.

Vitali put up a great effort. But he fell short.
That's just the way it is sometimes. Deal with it.
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Old 10-30-2012, 02:57 AM   #2167
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Why is this thread even a sticky?.... Internationalbutt is nothing but a troll lewis nuthugger... There have been a lot of controversial stoppages/decisions in the last 10 years and this thread is a sticky...Mods should be impartial instead we get this shit thread
Because prior to the point when this thread was a sticky, the General Forum was cluttered with multiple threads devoted to this particular fight. Now, there's one thread devoted to discussion of what took place that evening, rather than an endless series of threads that one would otherwise have to sift through in order to find threads devoted to those other controversial fights you mentioned.

Pretty sound rationale, really. If you're unable to grasp it, then that's your problem...not the rest of this Forum.
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:19 AM   #2168
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The lies and propaganda can never change the truth. Championship fights are 12 rounds, not 6. Vits gave a great effort but ended up in the deep end of the pool and being stopped. In the last two rounds he was clearly being outclassed and this was against an old, fat Lewis. Would EVERYONE have liked to see a rematch? No doubt. Was it necessary after already winning? Not at all. Now had Lewis ever come back this should and would rightfully be called a duck. But since he gad already beaten him and stayed retired Lewis should be applauded for his decision and sticking to it.


Lennox Lewis was a great Champion.

And in his rematches he always did better. But you are absolut right, Champinshipfights are 12 rounds and after 3 Vitali´s face was a bloody mass. After 6 just the half of the fight was over. The half!!!

The stoppage win was a legal TKO win for Lewis so no rematch was needed.

The Champ decided to retire and this was a good decision.

Great Champ and person Mr. Lennox Lewis
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:29 AM   #2169
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TKO ***
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:38 AM   #2170
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Hello everyone . . . TKO 6 . . . that is all
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:52 AM   #2171
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had to just go on youtube to make sure Emanuel Steward had a hand in making TKO6 a fact.

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Old 10-30-2012, 12:33 PM   #2172
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First off, if you're injury prone you're OBVIOUSLY not durable. Second, a rematch would have been for that belt but Vittles had his brother handle what he couldn't. There is no excuse since he fought only a month after Byrd-Wlad. Third, the majority of rounds were close. Just because Vits one the majority doesn't change that. Fourth, Vittles did not win 8 of 9 rounds on the cards so you're either lying or are clueless. Fifth, it doesn't matter who was perceived as better. We all know Wlad is the far greater fighter. Most of all though its styles that make fights and Vits had a much harder time even before the injury occurred in the seventh round than his brother did.
No, a rematch would not have been for the belt. Byrd picked Wlad to face him instead of a rematch with Vitali. It wasn't Vitali's choice for Wlad to jump in and fight the match. The majority of the rounds weren't close. Byrd simply was not landing which is absolutely pathetic because Vitali was only 1 arming the fight. Any good HW could have beat the 1 armed Vitali that night and instead Vitali won 8/9 rounds. Lastly, you don't even know what round the injury actually occurred. It happened in the 4th round, in which Vitali was absolutely killing Byrd up to that point. Discrediting an injury is one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen, and the fact is that there is no proof at all that Byrd could win without the shoulder injury. Absolutely none. If there is, I'd like to hear it besides the bullshit excuses you've been giving. Basically, Vitali destroys Byrd any day of the week and it's absolutely insane to believe otherwise.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:40 PM   #2173
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TKO6. There's your evidence. The actual result of the fight.




I can't imagine the second half of the fight either. That's because Vitaly couldn't make it that far.

Your theory is great if Lewis isn't allowed to fight back.

Look, Vitaly may have a plan to stop guys late. So what? It's no good if the other guy grinds you down faster.

That's what happened here. Steward told Lewis to turn it into a brawl after 2 rounds. 4 rounds later, the fight was over and Lewis had won.

Vitali put up a great effort. But he fell short.
That's just the way it is sometimes. Deal with it.
LOL that is seen with the most incredible bias I've ever seen. Steward didn't do shit to influence the fight. Vitali was the one who made it a brawl in the 2nd round when he almost sent to the Lewis to the canvas 2x. The fact is that Lewis was totally gassed by the end of the 6th and he would have went down on the sheer accumulation of punches he already sustained.

And YES, Vitali could have made it that far if it wasn't for the judgement of the ring doctor. Put in another doctor that lets the fight continue and it's a whole different game. If it wasn't for the judgment of one man, Vitali would have simply won the fight. His gameplan was working to a T, he made it a brawl at the beginning because he knew he would outbox Lewis anyway and then either finish him early (which would be nice but was pretty hard) or put him away easily at the end.

Vitali was in much better shape and if anyone believes that Lewis would have taken over the fight in the 2nd half simply disregards the shape Lewis was in and the way Vitali already outboxed him in the 1st half where Lewis used all of his gas in the tank.
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