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Old 08-10-2012, 04:05 PM   #16
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Almost no fighters from those countries along with Kazakhstan ever go pro.
Jirov, Golovkin, Shumenov...
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:37 PM   #17
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Jirov, Golovkin, Shumenov...
Is Golovkin any good, he's undefeated 23 wins, 20 KO.
But I don't know his opposition.
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Old 08-11-2012, 01:16 AM   #18
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cause to these guys the olympics are the pinnacle of the sport which is why instead of going pro they keep trying for another shot at the olympics......they train to win in the am system and that style is currently very detrimental to the pro format. It encourages bad habits like shoe shining and not worrying about landing power shots so the few that do turn pro have a lifetime of bad habits to change in a hurry before they get sparked.
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Old 08-11-2012, 01:17 AM   #19
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different scoring system

they got head gear on

the gloves r bigger

lot of corruption

the list goes on
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Old 08-11-2012, 01:34 AM   #20
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Teams like Japan, Brazil, Uzbekistan, Mongolia, Azerbaijan etc are good in the Olympics, but then you never hear of many top level fighters from these countries.

Why is this? Is it just due to lack of promotion and marketing?
Japan is good, Nishioka, Uchiyama, Igarashi and Ioka are rated at the top of their divisons by the RING and hold world titles. Yamanaka, Ao, Koki Kameda and Sato have world title belts and Shimizu. Serie, Miyazaki, Hasegawa and Shimoda are also highly rated amongst others
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Old 08-11-2012, 01:46 AM   #21
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Teams like Japan, Brazil, Uzbekistan, Mongolia, Azerbaijan etc are good in the Olympics, but then you never hear of many top level fighters from these countries.

Why is this? Is it just due to lack of promotion and marketing?
no
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Old 08-11-2012, 01:50 AM   #22
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japan has good pros, get your facts straight.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:06 AM   #23
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Default Re: Why are least expected countries good in Olympic boxing, but not in the Pros?

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Teams like Japan, Brazil, Uzbekistan, Mongolia, Azerbaijan etc are good in the Olympics, but then you never hear of many top level fighters from these countries.

Why is this? Is it just due to lack of promotion and marketing?
You don't know **** about boxing. you seen how many lower weight champs Japan have over past decade or so?

Also, of those countries you named, only Brazil (and Japan in same final) are actually in a gold medal fight.

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Old 08-11-2012, 02:10 AM   #24
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I was thinking about China in boxing...
If they opened up they would light the smaller weight classes up.
(About a billion Flyweights-Welterweights ****en ready to be unleashed)

Da **** are they waiting for???
Is in motion. They were more interested in Martial arts than boxing but hey is another method to compete and make money so they caught on of recent.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:38 AM   #25
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cause to these guys the olympics are the pinnacle of the sport which is why instead of going pro they keep trying for another shot at the olympics......they train to win in the am system and that style is currently very detrimental to the pro format. It encourages bad habits like shoe shining and not worrying about landing power shots so the few that do turn pro have a lifetime of bad habits to change in a hurry before they get sparked.
Have a look at the semi-finals from yesterday you mong... Shoe shining In every fight there were standing counts and guys getting hurt. America is shit in the amateurs and pro game. You know your country produces shit boxers when guys like Berto and Broner get hyped up as top guys. The only real world class, quality fighter America has produced in the last 10 years is Andre Ward. And look at that, he was an Olympic gold medallist.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:39 AM   #26
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Boxing was banned in China in 1959 by Mao Zedong for being too American and brutal, but the ban was lifted in 1989, so boxing is like a new sport in China. Maybe we'll see some more fighters from China going pro in the coming years.
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Old 08-11-2012, 03:15 AM   #27
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It's shame some countries like Cuba and china don't let athletes turn pro. Not only would we see these guys we see in Olympics, all the runners up with good pro styles would liven up the sport. Remember, till 20 years ago Russian,s Polish, and other Communist controlled counties were keeping guys from going pro. Imagine sport past 10 years with no Russian or East German, polish, etc. boxers?
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:01 AM   #28
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Yes. They don't have HBO/Shobox/ESPN in those countries.


For the most part they are not given a chance in the pro game
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:28 AM   #29
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Jirov, Golovkin, Shumenov...
lol You've named 3 in 16 years. From 1996-2012 Kazakhstan has the 2nd most medals in boxing at the Olympics....three guys.
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:16 AM   #30
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Mostly due to scoring and style taylored to support olympic style scoring.

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