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View Poll Results: Carlos Monzon vs James Toney At MW
Monzon By PTS 14 66.67%
Monzon By KO/TKO 1 4.76%
Draw 2 9.52%
Toney By PTS 2 9.52%
Toney By KO/TKO 2 9.52%
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:26 AM   #1
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Default Carlos Monzon vs James Toney At MW

Who wins?
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:38 AM   #2
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Monzon UD
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:04 AM   #3
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Monzon by decision.

Toney has his moments.

But Monzon's consistent work in every round earns him a clear decision win.
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:23 PM   #4
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Monzon would pitch a near shutout.....10-2/9-3...over 15 even wider or toney can't come out for the 15th.
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:39 PM   #5
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Monzon UD

About right.
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Old 08-14-2012, 01:16 PM   #6
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Default Re: Carlos Monzon vs James Toney At MW

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Monzon UD
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Monzon by decision.

Toney has his moments.

But Monzon's consistent work in every round earns him a clear decision win.
I just knew it it will b d verdict and d detailed prediction
especially each 1 of d quoted lines above really , and even more so d "Toney had his moments" it is always d case with Toney fantasy fights but also Toney real fights

unless he is dead b4 d 1st bell rings

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Monzon would pitch a near shutout.....10-2/9-3...over 15 even wider or toney can't come out for the 15th.
there is always 1 .


rily ? no1 Cs Toney putting a countering exhibition on d not 2 brilliant Monzon ? Monzon did not fight like Nunn and would have been more inviting and receptive 2 counters , wouldn't he ?

Toney was no midget Napoles or undersized Griffith , and was much more durable than them .

If Hasim Rahman or a prime rabbit punching Sam Peters could not do it , Y would Monzon ? and Toney was shot and severely undersized by d time he fought them , which is not d assumed case here .

No1 Cs Toney countering Monzon maybe a bit more than he could take ?
no need 4 a high workrate , just a steady accumulation of damage over d rds against a not particularly hard hitting , not especially hard 2 hit opponent .

Prime Jirov pressured Toney and if it was scheduled 4 15 , Jirov would have been d 1 not coming out 4d 14th .

Could Monzon , whom did not pressure that strong , do better ? maybe 4 his own survival he could , if he pressed less , but then he'd surely not stopped James .
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Old 08-14-2012, 01:49 PM   #7
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thought i was going to come on here and see stupid shit like "toney would end up knocking monzon out late" or the just as stupid "toney is too skilled for carlos"

but no, everyone has got it right. monzon beats toney wide on points. don't ever put this overrated piece of shit next to monzon's name ever again. thanks.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:00 PM   #8
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Monzon too cool and consistent.

Monzon wins a decision.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:27 PM   #9
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This goes down a bit like the McCallum fight, really close fight that could go either way
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:19 PM   #10
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Monzon too cool and consistent.

Monzon wins a decision.
Coudn't have said it better myself..
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:24 PM   #11
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If the fight stays on the inside, Toney wins. If Monzon came keep him at the end of his jab which is the more likely scenario, he wins. I wouldn't bet against Toney dropping Monzon more significantly than Rodrigo Valdes did.

This fight wouldn't be a shutout for Carlos like some here are saying. Toney was one of the best at middleweight.
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:42 PM   #12
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If the fight stays on the inside, Toney wins. If Monzon came keep him at the end of his jab which is the more likely scenario, he wins. I wouldn't bet against Toney dropping Monzon more significantly than Rodrigo Valdes did.

This fight wouldn't be a shutout for Carlos like some here are saying. Toney was one of the best at middleweight.
I'm one of the biggest Monzon fans on ESB and I wouldn't even predict a shutout..no shutout, but a Monzon win nonetheless.
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:49 PM   #13
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I'm one of the biggest Monzon fans on ESB and I wouldn't even predict a shutout..no shutout, but a Monzon win nonetheless.
Agree. I think prime Toney is being underrated against prime Monzon but I still lean towards Carlos taking a UD.

12 rounds, 7 - 5 or 8 - 4 for Monzon.
15 rounds, 9 - 6 or 10 - 5 for Monzon.

Pointswise the fight would be a little closer from the advent of Monzon being put on the floor by Toney.
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:51 PM   #14
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Agree. I think prime Toney is being underrated against prime Monzon but I still lean towards Carlos taking a UD.

12 rounds, 7 - 5 or 8 - 4 for Monzon.
15 rounds, 9 - 6 or 10 - 5 for Monzon.

Pointswise the fight would be a little closer from the advent of Monzon being put on the floor by Toney.
I think Carlos had a good chance of putting Toney on the deck too.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:00 PM   #15
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I think Carlos Monzon is my go to pick in any middleweight fight. However a James Toney win is not out of the question.
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