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Edgar 54 68.35%
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:46 AM   #46
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1 was Bendo easily. The leg kicks won that round. 3 I gave to Bendo. That's only two though.
I thought Edgar scored with 3 clean right hands to even what Henderson did with leg kicks. I gave Henderson the round because of the tight submission attempt to close the round. I'm not trying to start an argument. I just like to point out the differences in what people are scoring.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:04 AM   #47
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I would certainly give Edgar the edge in cardio. Unfortunately for him, I think it would be all over for him before it became a factor.
It's hard to see Edgar getting around those leg kicks. Especially with the way his stance is, I don't see him being to check a lot of them. Edgar's style is also so dependent on his foot work. If a few of those kicks bounce off his lead leg, it could be over shortly afterward.

I wonder if Edgar can turn it into a wrestling match without eating a knee like Mendes. That's the only way I see him having a chance.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:46 AM   #48
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Im glad Frankie lost but i had him winning
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Old 08-12-2012, 11:11 AM   #49
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I had hendo winning 3-2. Decision was fair in my view.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:15 PM   #50
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I had hendo winning 3-2. Decision was fair in my view.
Hendo vs Rua was a while back
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:33 PM   #51
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:41 PM   #52
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By engaging Henderson on his terms, he really took the edge of how intense and tenacious Henderson can be at his best.

I had Edgar 3-1-1 or 3-2.
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Old 08-12-2012, 06:59 PM   #53
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R1: Henderson
R2: Edgar
R3: Even
R4: Edgar
R5: Edgar.

NO WAY Henderson won that fight. Body shots count at least as much if not more than leg kicks folks.
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Old 08-12-2012, 11:31 PM   #54
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I had Edgar winning.

Round 3 was 10-10. It was a ****ing even round, neither fighter did shit to take it away from the other one.

Thought it was a poor fight overall. Rounds 1 and 2 were pretty good, then nothing happened for the rest of the fight. Even in the last round, two champions, the title is still up for grabs and neither of them showed any desire to reach out and TAKE the fight.

I had Frankie winning, but IMO a challenger should take the belt away from the champion and Edgar didn't do that. He left a very close fight in the hands of the judges and IMO he can't bitch about the decision because he was far too passive in the deciding rounds.

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Old 08-12-2012, 11:39 PM   #55
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Round 3: Could go either way. Draw realistically but could go either way
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3 could have gone either way
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3 was a straight up draw.
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round 3 was a draw nothing significant at all happened it was just a matter of who the judges "gave" it to.
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I had Edgar 3-1-1 or 3-2.
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R3: Even
Don't even try to say that round 3 could have been scored even. There's no such thing as an even round in MMA, no matter what, and you're an idiot noob retard if you think there is. But you'll find that out if you ever dare to suggest that the odd round here and there justifies a 10-10 scoreline.

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Old 08-13-2012, 10:01 AM   #56
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I had Edgar winning.

Round 3 was 10-10. It was a ****ing even round, neither fighter did shit to take it away from the other one.

Thought it was a poor fight overall. Rounds 1 and 2 were pretty good, then nothing happened for the rest of the fight. Even in the last round, two champions, the title is still up for grabs and neither of them showed any desire to reach out and TAKE the fight.

I had Frankie winning, but IMO a challenger should take the belt away from the champion and Edgar didn't do that. He left a very close fight in the hands of the judges and IMO he can't bitch about the decision because he was far too passive in the deciding rounds.

The guy who fights better should win the fight, and Edgar won three rounds easily and lost one. In terms of going out there and going for it, Henderson is the much bigger guy who was using the bullshit "one hand on the ground is a downed opponent" loophole over and over again to get time to recover. In the last round Edgar backed Henderson up almost the whole time. What exactly to you consider "reaching out to take" the fight? Does it have to be a Chris Leben style wading in throwing haymakers?

In terms of it being a bad fight, I thought it should have been fight of the night over Guillard/Seronne. That fight turned around fast, but it was just a ****ing mess. That wasn't two guys on the top of their game like the main event, it was one guy so overconfident that he nearly gets cold****ed and then stumbles around the ring like a goon for a minuted against a guy so one dimensional that he gets cold****ed by a shitty kick from a guy on stilts.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:09 AM   #57
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Thought it was a poor fight overall. Rounds 1 and 2 were pretty good, then nothing happened for the rest of the fight. Even in the last round, two champions, the title is still up for grabs and neither of them showed any desire to reach out and TAKE the fight.
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Evans gets a lot of hate, IMO due to his personality and TUF origin story. But he is a top-level fighter who has shown that he continues to work intelligently and evolve his game.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:54 AM   #58
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The guy who fights better should win the fight, and Edgar won three rounds easily and lost one. In terms of going out there and going for it, Henderson is the much bigger guy who was using the bullshit "one hand on the ground is a downed opponent" loophole over and over again to get time to recover. In the last round Edgar backed Henderson up almost the whole time.
Twice in that post I said that I had Edgar winning the fight.

But I was raised with the mindset that in a championship bout, benefit of the doubt goes to the champion. The challenger needs to take the belt, not keep the fight close, go to a decision and hope that the judges give it to him. Again, I had Edgar winning the fight. But it was close enough that I don't have a lot of sympathy for Edgar missing out on the belt.

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What exactly to you consider "reaching out to take" the fight? Does it have to be a Chris Leben style wading in throwing haymakers?
No. But I rewatched round 5 just now. I gave it to Edgar, but really there was **** all happening from either fighter. A lot of posing, a lot of feinting, a lot of Edgar taking a couple of steps forward, but jack all crisp striking. Frankie was looking to outpoint Benson, rather than get into a war with the bigger, more athletic man. Okay, fair enough. But he didn't outpoint Henderson clearly enough that the judges saw fit to take Henderson's title belt away from him.

And in the 3rd round, nothing happened at all. Edgar can't complain about anyone scoring that one against him, because he did nothing in that round.

So everyone in the arena knew that after 4 rounds, it was 1 round to each man and 2 rounds were too close to reliably predict who the judges went with. Both guys needed to lay it on the line in the 5th if they wanted to avoid a lottery decision. And yes, Frankie looked like he wanted it more. But he didn't do enough. He was content in rounds 3, 4 and 5 to do just enough so that he figured he did a little more than Henderson. But the judges didn't see it that way.

Since you mention Chris Leben, I'll say one thing about that guy. Win or lose, Leben would have poured everything he had into that 5th round. Frankie didn't. He fought within himself, trying to win the round 10-9, and that strategy blew up in his face.

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In terms of it being a bad fight, I thought it should have been fight of the night over Guillard/Seronne. That fight turned around fast, but it was just a ****ing mess. That wasn't two guys on the top of their game like the main event, it was one guy so overconfident that he nearly gets cold****ed and then stumbles around the ring like a goon for a minuted against a guy so one dimensional that he gets cold****ed by a shitty kick from a guy on stilts.
The main event started off well - the first two rounds were great.

Rounds three, four and five, not so much. In fact they were pretty dull, round three in particular. It looked like both guys figured they were on their way to winning a decision, and were happy to keep going like that without taking chances and exposing themselves to risk.

Cerrone/Guillard, on the other hand, was CRAZY. That fight had the crowd roaring. It was EASILY the most dramatic result of the night. It had two guys who were willing to put themselves RIGHT out there. It had as much action in 70 seconds than the main event had in 25 minutes. It had the most dramatic momentum shift of the night. It was the most memorable fight on the main card. Etc etc etc.

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Old 08-13-2012, 04:16 PM   #59
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I admit im no great MMA judge and was drinking while watching the fight but i didnt think it was a conclusive fight

neither guy put much of a stamp on it

the best highlight of the night was Frankie's big right hand shot, and he blew it by not following up

i felt Hendo was in all kinds of trouble and he went for the choke....if he kept punching the dazed Hendo he might have ended it....i mean i thought he really let him off the hook

and this is what happens in fight sports when you dont finish a guy when you had the chance you leave it up to a 3rd party and you really can never ever be sure your hand will be raised

as for my opinion

Frankie won 2 and 4

Bendo won 1,3,5

but it was tactical it was close it was competitive and nobody really took the bull by the balls and took command so to speak

basically i would not have cried foul if it was Frankie Bendo or Draw
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:18 PM   #60
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I had Edgar winning.

Round 3 was 10-10. It was a ****ing even round, neither fighter did shit to take it away from the other one.

Thought it was a poor fight overall. Rounds 1 and 2 were pretty good, then nothing happened for the rest of the fight. Even in the last round, two champions, the title is still up for grabs and neither of them showed any desire to reach out and TAKE the fight.

I had Frankie winning, but IMO a challenger should take the belt away from the champion and Edgar didn't do that. He left a very close fight in the hands of the judges and IMO he can't bitch about the decision because he was far too passive in the deciding rounds.

cannot argue with this at all
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