Felix Trinidad or Bob Foster

PhillyPhan69 · 08-13-2012, 01:54 PM

Please don't tell me Foster would KO him as I am quite certain he would! My question is who would you call the greater of these 2? If you were doing a ranking type of list which of the 2 gets a higher placement and why?

LittleRed · 08-13-2012, 02:12 PM

Being from Philly I was sure this question was who had the better left hook.

I'll need to think on this one. I really think it depends on how you feel about Trinidad fight with de la Hoya. both had long reigns although foster was undisputed, and up until the fight with Oscar they fought similar levels of comp. Tito moved up and one some belts but was .dismantled more than once.

Flea Man · 08-13-2012, 02:17 PM

For me, Tito was never the no.1 in any of his divisions...well, junior middle I guess.

Light heavy>junior middle. Trinidad's actual P4P achievements aren't that impressive to me. He was an absolute dangerman at each weightclass he was in and either no.2 or top 3 at welter, JMW and middle. Awesome, I love him. But I'd rank Foster higher. His light heavy reign wasn't spectacular in terms of opposition but it's the more esteemed achievement IMO.

PhillyPhan69 · 08-13-2012, 02:23 PM

I hadn't really thought about this before, but saw a top 100 list and was kinda surprised (not necesarilly disagreeable) to find them side by side...I kinda thought Foster at first, but after a few minutes it didn't seem quite so absurd.

lufcrazy · 08-13-2012, 02:39 PM

yeah like flea said, with me scoring the tito-hoya fight for hoya I can't ever call tito a welterweight number 1. at lmw he beat vargas which definitely put him number 1 (although i think the actual lineage was with the wbc belt). at mw he lost to hopkins so was never number 1.

he's basically a man who was a top contender for a decade with a short stint at the top ion a bastard division. not overly impressive in terms of the big picture as many have had similar successes.

Foster ruled LHW with an iron fist and he did what all greats should do in testing himself outside of his comfort zone. So yeah for me it's Foster and it aint really close.

PowerPuncher · 08-13-2012, 02:42 PM

Foster is more dominant, but I think both had weakish resumes all in all. Flip a coin

lufcrazy · 08-13-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

Foster is more dominant, but I think both had weakish resumes all in all. Flip a coin

so let's say you grade both resume's at a D (or whatever) yet you place Foster's achievements higher, wouldn't that indicate Foster rates higher or is achievement no biggy for you?

Xplosive · 08-15-2012, 01:05 AM

Foster was greater and better.

TheSouthpaw · 08-15-2012, 01:11 AM

Trinidad..Much better boxer..better counter puncher..The only thing I would really worry about would be Tito having to get big enough to fight Foster. I mean your talking about a 20 to 25 pound difference here...So do you think they meet in the middle and fight at 160?

PhillyPhan69 · 08-15-2012, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSouthpaw

Trinidad..Much better boxer..better counter puncher..The only thing I would really worry about would be Tito having to get big enough to fight Foster. I mean your talking about a 20 to 25 pound difference here...So do you think they meet in the middle and fight at 160?

I think you need to stop posting nonesense.....You also need to stop posting one statement and then coming back 5 minutes later and making and equally opposite claim....I meant that as non ofensively as possible....

As for the context of this thread....go back read the OP....realize you asked a question that has it's answer contained in the OP.....and then....nevermind

JohnThomas1 · 08-18-2012, 12:13 PM

No contest.

turbotime · 08-18-2012, 12:15 PM

Foster. Trinidad missed out on the best prime welters.

Flea Man · 08-18-2012, 12:23 PM

He did fight the best one of his time though. Admittedly in defeat.

08-13-2012, 01:54 PM	#1
PhillyPhan69 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Salisbury, MD Posts: 3,710 vCash: 1000	Felix Trinidad or Bob Foster Please don't tell me Foster would KO him as I am quite certain he would! My question is who would you call the greater of these 2? If you were doing a ranking type of list which of the 2 gets a higher placement and why?
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08-13-2012, 02:12 PM	#2
LittleRed Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yoknapatawpha Posts: 2,612 vCash: 475	Re: Felix Trinidad or Bob Foster Being from Philly I was sure this question was who had the better left hook. I'll need to think on this one. I really think it depends on how you feel about Trinidad fight with de la Hoya. both had long reigns although foster was undisputed, and up until the fight with Oscar they fought similar levels of comp. Tito moved up and one some belts but was .dismantled more than once.
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08-13-2012, 02:17 PM	#3
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,053 vCash: 75	Re: Felix Trinidad or Bob Foster For me, Tito was never the no.1 in any of his divisions...well, junior middle I guess. Light heavy>junior middle. Trinidad's actual P4P achievements aren't that impressive to me. He was an absolute dangerman at each weightclass he was in and either no.2 or top 3 at welter, JMW and middle. Awesome, I love him. But I'd rank Foster higher. His light heavy reign wasn't spectacular in terms of opposition but it's the more esteemed achievement IMO.
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08-13-2012, 02:23 PM	#4
PhillyPhan69 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Salisbury, MD Posts: 3,710 vCash: 1000	Re: Felix Trinidad or Bob Foster I hadn't really thought about this before, but saw a top 100 list and was kinda surprised (not necesarilly disagreeable) to find them side by side...I kinda thought Foster at first, but after a few minutes it didn't seem quite so absurd.
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08-13-2012, 02:39 PM	#5
lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,710 vCash: 330	Re: Felix Trinidad or Bob Foster yeah like flea said, with me scoring the tito-hoya fight for hoya I can't ever call tito a welterweight number 1. at lmw he beat vargas which definitely put him number 1 (although i think the actual lineage was with the wbc belt). at mw he lost to hopkins so was never number 1. he's basically a man who was a top contender for a decade with a short stint at the top ion a bastard division. not overly impressive in terms of the big picture as many have had similar successes. Foster ruled LHW with an iron fist and he did what all greats should do in testing himself outside of his comfort zone. So yeah for me it's Foster and it aint really close.
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08-13-2012, 02:42 PM	#6
PowerPuncher ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 30,729 vCash: 1000	Re: Felix Trinidad or Bob Foster Foster is more dominant, but I think both had weakish resumes all in all. Flip a coin
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Xplosive Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,371 vCash: 1000	Re: Felix Trinidad or Bob Foster Foster was greater and better.
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TheSouthpaw Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,857 vCash: 500	Re: Felix Trinidad or Bob Foster Trinidad..Much better boxer..better counter puncher..The only thing I would really worry about would be Tito having to get big enough to fight Foster. I mean your talking about a 20 to 25 pound difference here...So do you think they meet in the middle and fight at 160?
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08-18-2012, 12:13 PM	#11
JohnThomas1 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 12,184 vCash: 1000	Re: Felix Trinidad or Bob Foster No contest.
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turbotime Future Hall Of Famer East Side VIP Join Date: May 2012 Location: LA/Canada Posts: 18,669 vCash: 816	Re: Felix Trinidad or Bob Foster Foster. Trinidad missed out on the best prime welters.
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08-18-2012, 12:23 PM	#13
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,053 vCash: 75	Re: Felix Trinidad or Bob Foster He did fight the best one of his time though. Admittedly in defeat.
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