World Class "Journeyman" Fighters

sas6789 · 08-15-2012, 11:04 AM

Can you think of any fighters who were considered journerman but were actually world class or had world class skills?

MrBumboclart · 08-15-2012, 11:09 AM

Luis Resto? (lol)

Nah, Jerry Quarry is seen as a journeyman of the 60s/70s and shouldnt be. He was a great fighter in his own right, as were many in that day.

Tony Galento was somewhat of a journeyman - fighting as a second job and giving top class fighters tough fights. However hes more skilled and a better fighter than hes given credit.

bladerunner · 08-15-2012, 11:11 AM

Freddie Pendleton.

Glenn Johnson.

Juan Laporte.

Saoul Mamby.

Augustus when he wasnt clowning around.

Box-Fan · 08-15-2012, 11:31 AM

Sanderline Williams gave a lot of future world very good and close fights Iran Barkley, James Toney, Frank Tate, Reggie Johnson, Nigel Benn. Also other good fighters like Herol Graham, Don lee and Merqui Sosa. That says something about Sanderline's quality.

Mavellous Mark · 08-15-2012, 11:47 AM

Emanuel Augustus

turbotime · 08-15-2012, 11:50 AM

Journeymen are journeymen for a reason IMO

There are Champions, Contenders, Journeymen.

I have a very hard time calling guys like Oba Carr or Jerry Quarry "journeymen" when they are one of the best guys in their division.

AREA 53 · 08-15-2012, 01:32 PM

Tom "The Bomb" Bethea upset a few national champs in their backyards like Mark Rowe British Champ and Nino Benvenuti World Champ, Sadly for Tom it was a Non-Title Fight with Nino - Nino won with the title on the line. A real tough competitor was Mr Bethea.

Vic-JofreBRASIL · 08-15-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bladerunner

Freddie Pendleton.

Glenn Johnson.

Juan Laporte.

Saoul Mamby.

Augustus when he wasnt clowning around.

LaPorte wasn´t a journeyman IMO....

WhyYouLittle · 08-15-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bladerunner

Augustus when he wasnt clowning around.

One of my favorites. The one guy I don't mind clowning around. It looks like he's more like having a good time than he's trying to humiliate the other guy.

TBooze · 08-15-2012, 01:57 PM

World class journeyman is an oxymoron.

natonic · 08-15-2012, 02:02 PM

I think Harold Brazier was a journeyman fighter who worked his way to word class level. Same with Freddie Pendleton.

sas6789 · 08-15-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Box-Fan

Sanderline Williams gave a lot of future world very good and close fights Iran Barkley, James Toney, Frank Tate, Reggie Johnson, Nigel Benn. Also other good fighters like Herol Graham, Don lee and Merqui Sosa. That says something about Sanderline's quality.

I agree, i thought he beat Barkley he lost a SD to Benn as well.

itliangladiator · 08-15-2012, 02:27 PM

Johnny Bratton but he was a world champion and very talented, Ralph Tiger Jones.

luke · 08-15-2012, 03:02 PM

I was about to start a thread like this about the 1980's and 1990's HW journymen/Gatekeepers, Bert Cooper, Jesse Ferguson, Leon Spinks, Lionel Buttler, Jimmy Thunder, Mike Evans, Bonecrusher Smith, Mike Weaver, Darrol Willson, David Izon, Everett Martin, Elijah Tillery, Mike Hunter, Oliver McCall, John Tate, Tyrell Biggs, Jose Ribalta, James Tillis, Ros Purrity, Michael Dokes, Orlin Norris.

Legend X · 08-15-2012, 03:06 PM

Yeah, lots of fighters.

Jesse Ferguson was the first that came to mind.

08-15-2012, 11:04 AM	#1
sas6789 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 219 vCash: 500	World Class "Journeyman" Fighters Can you think of any fighters who were considered journerman but were actually world class or had world class skills?
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08-15-2012, 11:09 AM	#2
MrBumboclart Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Birmingham Posts: 342 vCash: 500	Re: World Class "Journeyman" Fighters Luis Resto? (lol) Nah, Jerry Quarry is seen as a journeyman of the 60s/70s and shouldnt be. He was a great fighter in his own right, as were many in that day. Tony Galento was somewhat of a journeyman - fighting as a second job and giving top class fighters tough fights. However hes more skilled and a better fighter than hes given credit.
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bladerunner El Intocable East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 20,385 vCash: 0	Re: World Class "Journeyman" Fighters Freddie Pendleton. Glenn Johnson. Juan Laporte. Saoul Mamby. Augustus when he wasnt clowning around. Last edited by bladerunner; 08-15-2012 at 11:22 AM.
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Box-Fan Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 168 vCash: 500	Re: World Class "Journeyman" Fighters Sanderline Williams gave a lot of future world very good and close fights Iran Barkley, James Toney, Frank Tate, Reggie Johnson, Nigel Benn. Also other good fighters like Herol Graham, Don lee and Merqui Sosa. That says something about Sanderline's quality.
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Mavellous Mark Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Reading, England Posts: 258 vCash: 1000	Re: World Class "Journeyman" Fighters Emanuel Augustus
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08-15-2012, 11:50 AM	#6
turbotime Future Hall Of Famer East Side VIP Join Date: May 2012 Location: LA/Canada Posts: 18,731 vCash: 816	Re: World Class "Journeyman" Fighters Journeymen are journeymen for a reason IMO There are Champions, Contenders, Journeymen. I have a very hard time calling guys like Oba Carr or Jerry Quarry "journeymen" when they are one of the best guys in their division.
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AREA 53 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,048 vCash: 1000	Re: World Class "Journeyman" Fighters Tom "The Bomb" Bethea upset a few national champs in their backyards like Mark Rowe British Champ and Nino Benvenuti World Champ, Sadly for Tom it was a Non-Title Fight with Nino - Nino won with the title on the line. A real tough competitor was Mr Bethea.
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TBooze Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South of London Posts: 9,794 vCash: 0	Re: World Class "Journeyman" Fighters World class journeyman is an oxymoron.
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08-15-2012, 02:02 PM	#11
natonic Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,743 vCash: 1000	Re: World Class "Journeyman" Fighters I think Harold Brazier was a journeyman fighter who worked his way to word class level. Same with Freddie Pendleton.
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itliangladiator Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,645 vCash: 1000	Re: World Class "Journeyman" Fighters Johnny Bratton but he was a world champion and very talented, Ralph Tiger Jones.
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08-15-2012, 03:02 PM	#14
luke Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,152 vCash: 500	Re: World Class "Journeyman" Fighters I was about to start a thread like this about the 1980's and 1990's HW journymen/Gatekeepers, Bert Cooper, Jesse Ferguson, Leon Spinks, Lionel Buttler, Jimmy Thunder, Mike Evans, Bonecrusher Smith, Mike Weaver, Darrol Willson, David Izon, Everett Martin, Elijah Tillery, Mike Hunter, Oliver McCall, John Tate, Tyrell Biggs, Jose Ribalta, James Tillis, Ros Purrity, Michael Dokes, Orlin Norris.
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08-15-2012, 03:06 PM	#15
Legend X Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 3,105 vCash: 1000	Re: World Class "Journeyman" Fighters Yeah, lots of fighters. Jesse Ferguson was the first that came to mind.
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