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Old 08-07-2012, 02:26 PM   #1
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Where do you have this among the all time quit jobs?

It reminds me of Ali-Liston I, in that he was losing and taking some good licks but certainly not getting beat down yet. But Liston actually came out with an X-ray to prove his injury. In Chavez' case it seems almost like a worse, and more befuddling, quit job.

Did Chavez blame injuries or anything like that? What was his explanation?
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:58 PM   #2
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Where do you have this among the all time quit jobs?

It reminds me of Ali-Liston I, in that he was losing and taking some good licks but certainly not getting beat down yet. But Liston actually came out with an X-ray to prove his injury. In Chavez' case it seems almost like a worse, and more befuddling, quit job.

Did Chavez blame injuries or anything like that? What was his explanation?
I heard it was a broken rib... but I don`t focus too much on what happens between prime/fresh fighters vs past prime/shot fighters, it gives absolutely zero reflection of who was better, greater or how a fight would go between prime versions.... I see these fights as just a necessary but unfortunate part of the sport.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:05 PM   #3
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I heard it was a broken rib... but I don`t focus too much on what happens between prime/fresh fighters vs past prime/shot fighters, it gives absolutely zero reflection of who was better, greater or how a fight would go between prime versions.... I see these fights as just a necessary but unfortunate part of the sport.
I don't see it as much reflection on a prime for prime match-up either, just curious why he quit when he didn't seem to be in such a bad way.

It was not a broken rib. With a broken rib you hardly breathe, let alone walk around. Cracked rib maybe.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:22 PM   #4
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I thought Chavez accidentally bit half his tongue off after an unexpected DLH uppercut. Video seemed to confirm this for me, as he has his mouth hanging open, having trouble articulating his injury.

IRRC, it bled like a lunatic. But I'm unsure where I got all this from, just nestled in my memory.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:24 PM   #5
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I thought Chavez accidentally bit half his tongue off after an unexpected DLH uppercut. Video seemed to confirm this for me, as he has his mouth hanging open, having trouble articulating his injury.

IRRC, it bled like a lunatic. But I'm unsure where I got all this from, just nestled in my memory.
Ok. Myabe I'll revisit the film and have a look.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:43 PM   #6
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I just checked the end of the fight and it seems to be the case.
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:15 PM   #7
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Thought is was a cut inside the mouth. I lost a lot of respect for him between this and the Randall thing
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:30 PM   #8
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Hispanic pride kicked in. He was getting beaten very quickly in the fight, he figured he had no chance, and like Duran in the Leonard rematch, would rather end it than be humiliated and shown up for any longer. Chavez still doesn't care for Oscar.
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:38 PM   #9
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Hispanic pride kicked in. He was getting beaten very quickly in the fight, he figured he had no chance, and like Duran in the Leonard rematch, would rather end it than be humiliated and shown up for any longer. Chavez still doesn't care for Oscar.
Leonard was clowning against Duran, though, and himself reckons that's why Duran quit. Leonard says Duran was still in the match and had a chance to win it, but just couldn't stand being made fun of.

But Chavez was clearly losing and seemed to quit in order to avoid being stopped in a couple of rounds.

Duran's quit job, ridicolous as it is, seems more in line with his machismo image to me than Chavez'.
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:49 PM   #10
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I am remembering something, and I'm not even sure it's the right fight. Heck, might not even be the right fighter, with my memory. I may have Bert-Sugaredly created this in my subconscious without realising it... But I seem to recall Larry Merchant talking through an interpreter to Chavez(?) after the DLH fight(?) and they go back and forth through the interpretations and then Merchant says something about "quit" and Chavez's eyes get wide and he says in plain enough English "BULLCHIT!".

...So, that's probably not helpful. I was just thinking out loud. Good day. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:33 AM   #11
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Chavez had a broken rib, fractured jaw, and a badass cut in his mouth. I don't put too much stock in the quit job.
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Old 08-08-2012, 01:34 AM   #12
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"Retired" is a much better term.

I have a hard time calling any fighter a "quitter".
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Old 08-08-2012, 07:03 AM   #13
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Knew he couldn't win or keep it respectable any longer, and would just be taking punishment futilely.

Not nearly as damning as the Randall quit job imo.
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:34 AM   #14
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He said "cuts inside the lips are very very harmful". He also claimed his corner and the doctor stopped it .
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:36 AM   #15
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Default Re: Chavez quitting in the rematch against DLH

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I thought Chavez accidentally bit half his tongue off after an unexpected DLH uppercut. Video seemed to confirm this for me, as he has his mouth hanging open, having trouble articulating his injury.

IRRC, it bled like a lunatic. But I'm unsure where I got all this from, just nestled in my memory.
You have a good memory, because I was struggling to recall the details, but your mention of that incident does ring a bell now that I think of it.

I remember Chavez getting DLH all riled up and fighting stupid, but then DLH caught him with some big shots and one really seemed to bother Chavez a lot.
I do remember thinking at the time that the writing looked to be on the wall for Chavez after that, but it's risky trying to recall from memory.
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