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View Poll Results: More Skilled
Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr. 107 50.95%
Roberto "Manos De Piedra" Duran 103 49.05%
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Old 08-19-2012, 08:23 PM   #256
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That's a who's who of fighters from 126-135 of that particular era. Olivares is a certified all-time great. Bobby Chacon is in the IBHOF. And many of them were established world champions and very, very solid fighters - Jose Legra who is arguably a HOFer, Rolando Navarette, and Jim Watt for instance.

And I do know who they are. I've seen all of them fight (albeit not live) and I have footage of a good number of them in my collection. It's called educating yourself and it's not as though these are obscure guys either. It's a shame people spew misinformation and are so quick to write fighters off as average when they've seen a grand total of zero rounds they fought. And yes, I'm directing that towards you.
Yea maybe they were good at that time, maybe im a huge boxing fan, i watch every fight i can even solo boxeo, fights the casual fans would never bother with, i also research certain fighters that i didnt have the pleasure of seeing live, however if i attempted to watch every fight of every fighter who foight a well known fighter past or present i would have no time to do anything else, now the only figher I've heard of on that list and saw a couple fights of is Ray Mancini...

Never said Alexis Arguello was average and I was actually trolling about his resume, similar to how today's fighters get so much disrespect about their resume...but I still don't consider a win over Marcel such a great feat solely because he beat Arguello...
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Old 08-19-2012, 08:26 PM   #257
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Yea maybe they were good at that time, maybe im a huge boxing fan, i watch every fight i can even solo boxeo, fights the casual fans would never bother with, i also research certain fighters that i didnt have the pleasure of seeing live, however if i attempted to watch every fight of every fighter who foight a well known fighter past or present i would have no time to do anything else, now the only figher I've heard of on that list and saw a couple fights of is Ray Mancini...

Never said Alexis Arguello was average and I was actually trolling about his resume, similar to how today's fighters get so much disrespect about their resume...but I still don't consider a win over Marcel such a great feat solely because he beat Arguello...
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And I'll also add that despite me arguing vehemently for Duran in this thread, I'm a big fan of Mayweather's skills. He's one of my favorite technicians to watch in this era as he's one of the only guys with truly great skills. He's a certified ATG and he'd be a hall of fame caliber fighter in any era.
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:09 PM   #258
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:46 PM   #259
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good that you admit that you're an idiot. Maybe theres hope for you after all
retard.

bladegunner is your fellow flomo poster. you're quoting bladerunner.
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:15 PM   #260
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JMP is shitting on people.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:07 PM   #261
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Haha all the Duran nuthuggers wafting in the ambience of his overrated mystique. Only won one big fight against Ray Leonard when Leonard fought his fight and still almost lost that. Quit like a chump in the rematch, outboxed by Benitez and Laing, beaten by Hagler, knocked stiff by Hearns.

Look at his big wins. Total joke stoppage against Marcel, nailed Buchanan in the balls for the title, thumbed an inexperienced Moore, went life and death with Iran Barkeley in a fight he lost. Are we supposed to give him credit for taking 15 rounds to stop Leonicio Ortiz who was just a southpaw with an awesome beard? Or is it his awesome destruction of Alvaro Rojas who had a 4-4 record?

He never gave Buchanan a rematch and struggled with DeJesus who was dominated by Antonio Cervantes, who Duran openly and admittedly ducked. And that's an ATG?
Even if all this bs was exactly as you paint it... it still shits on floyds career tbh.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:35 PM   #262
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93-78, esb knows where it's at.

FLoyd is much more skilled than Duran was.
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I absolutely believe Floyd could outbox Hagler, just my opinion
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****ing hell, people really think like this?
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:18 PM   #265
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Mayweather is more skilled. But Duran had enough grunt and animal to make up for any skill deficits.
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Mayweather is more skilled. But Duran had enough grunt and animal to make up for any skill deficits.
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How not? The only advantage Duran has on Floyd is punching power.
That answer tells us all you never saw the man fight, cause if you did you'd know you're talking shit. This forum needs a minimum age limit.
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I have seen numerous Duran fights. Probably more than most on this forum. I can't see how one can watch him and watch Mayweather and say Duran is more skilled. Without being sarcastic or bias.

Depends on what you mean by skilled. He certainly threw more combinations than Mayweather, he mixed up his punches better. He rolled with punches as good as anyone, and he countered very quickly because he stayed in the pocket a lot. And he feinted better.

No less an expert than Angelo Dundee said he's defense was very under-rated and certainly his offense was better than Mayweather's. Pretty hard to be considered in the top 10 ATG and to beat someone like Leonard without having boxing skills.
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