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Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr. 107 50.95%
Roberto "Manos De Piedra" Duran 103 49.05%
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:30 AM   #316
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Read the first few posts and I have come to realise that chin and stamina are now classed as skills.

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Hands of Stone is more skilled and proved it against superior competition. Watching the Fab Four fight these old school cats have a ridiculous punch output compared to most of today's boxers. Awesome. Mayweather > Robinson.
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Floyd isn't even the most skilled of the last 15 years. One example is James Toney had more skill than Floyd. Floyd has the work ethic though. An Duran had even more to his game than James Toney. Duran had a great Defense and great offense. This is my opinion though
Absolutly spot on! James Toney is just another example of a boxer who is streets ahead of this phantom farce Mayweather

****in skills!!! If mayweather had the skills he would'nt have spent these last 6 years avoiding all clear & present dangers, his resume is piss poor at best! Mayweather is just a gob shyte fraud, if Castillo can **** him up & Judah best him for 5 rounds then Mayweather's gonna get ****in murdered by Duran/SRL/Hearns & co. Only a premature ejaclator would think that mayweather has more skill!!!! SKILL? What ****ing SKILL? Sqeaking past an old man in DLH, WBU standard HATTON! C Level scrapper GATTI, D Level BAG of CEMENT Baldomir

Mayweather is a joke & the jokes on boxing! Mayweather is shit scared to fight a midgit How the **** can anyone with an ounce of common sence say that this fraud Mayweather has more skill that Duran If the likes of SRL can have his arse handed to him then how the **** is this one punch at a time! Stay on the ropes! Hide behind the shoulder & hope for the best! Where is the skill that will nullify Duran's all out assault & how the **** is Mayweather going to be even able to breath!

Where is this so called skill that mayweather possess that can overcome the titans! He ai'nt ****in got what it takes period! He'll always look good against selected opponants. But there is absolutly no way that he could ever overcome the premier league boxers like Duran/SRL/Benitez & Hearns. Mayweather is tailor-made for Duran & Duran is one of the slickest boxers out there, go read what Angelo Dundee said about him. AS an ealier poster quite rightly pointed out, these daft cunts who coo over Floyds **** don't actually understand the real meaning of Skill or as to how it ought to be correctly defined & presented. If mayweather had all this vaunted SKILL he'd not be the coward he is! Would he
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Absolutly spot on! James Toney is just another example of a boxer who is streets ahead of this phantom farce Mayweather

****in skills!!! If mayweather had the skills he would'nt have spent these last 6 years avoiding all clear & present dangers, his resume is piss poor at best! Mayweather is just a gob shyte fraud, if Castillo can **** him up & Judah best him for 5 rounds then Mayweather's gonna get ****in murdered by Duran/SRL/Hearns & co. Only a premature ejaclator would think that mayweather has more skill!!!! SKILL? What ****ing SKILL? Sqeaking past an old man in DLH, WBU standard HATTON! C Level scrapper GATTI, D Level BAG of CEMENT Baldomir

Mayweather is a joke & the jokes on boxing! Mayweather is shit scared to fight a midgit How the **** can anyone with an ounce of common sence say that this fraud Mayweather has more skill that Duran If the likes of SRL can have his arse handed to him then how the **** is this one punch at a time! Stay on the ropes! Hide behind the shoulder & hope for the best! Where is the skill that will nullify Duran's all out assault & how the **** is Mayweather going to be even able to breath!

Where is this so called skill that mayweather possess that can overcome the titans! He ai'nt ****in got what it takes period! He'll always look good against selected opponants. But there is absolutly no way that he could ever overcome the premier league boxers like Duran/SRL/Benitez & Hearns. Mayweather is tailor-made for Duran & Duran is one of the slickest boxers out there, go read what Angelo Dundee said about him. AS an ealier poster quite rightly pointed out, these daft cunts who coo over Floyds **** don't actually understand the real meaning of Skill or as to how it ought to be correctly defined & presented. If mayweather had all this vaunted SKILL he'd not be the coward he is! Would he

Floyd and Duran have completely different styles, it is difficult to compare.

Certainly, Duran was much more versatile offensively.Floyd always thinks defense first.

Overall, Duran is the better fighter, but on pure technique Flyod has the edge.
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I`m not sure about the fmj-Toney thing, I won`t argue with that but I`m not sure if its how I feel about it, its certainly worth a debate though, I don`t imagine there is a huge gap between them whichever way you go.

Your right on Duran though, as complete as they have ever came & an undisputed elite ATG.
Overall, I think James Toney has a slight edge in terms of skills over Floyd.
Counterpunching, power, offensive arsenal seem to slightly favour James.
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Duran is one of the slickest boxers out there, go read what Angelo Dundee said about him.



"Moving fluidly and jabbing, slipping punches and countering rather than swarming over DeJesus, he stalked him, relentlessly wearing him down and coolly destroying him with savage punches to the body. For 11 rounds Duran bested the classic boxer at his own game, robbing him of his speed and his will to fight, and only then did he permit himself the luxury of putting DeJesus away.”

~ Sports Illustrated, Jan. 30, 1978

“One gets the impression of Duran is that he’s a tough, rough brawler who just wades in and ducks nothing. But all you have to do is look at his face to see that is nonsense. He’s not marked up. He does a lot of cute things in there.”

~ Angelo Dundee, Hall of Fame trainer

"He’s good inside, very good, strong physically. The one thing that surprised me the most was his quickness. And his defensive ability. He moves his head a lot, feints a lot. He’s not an easy man to hit."

~ Carlos Palomino, Hall of Fame welterweight

"Duran actually isn't easy to hit like everyone thinks."

~ Ray Leonard

"Duran has been very under-rated defensively by some analysts. He had good head movement, slipped punches, and got angles on his opponent’s inside. When he slipped those punches he would always be in punching position to land power shots with full balance and leverage. When he was hit he would usually roll with the punch to reduce its effectiveness. He would usually parry an opponent’s jab when he was going to rush inside. Duran was also a master at feinting. He would feint with the lead right and if his opponent’s would lean back, which is a popular tactic amongst modern boxers, they would expose their body and Duran would cleverly switch his attack with a left hook counter to the liver."

~ Monte Cox, boxing historian

"Duran's always been the master at defense, that's one of his trademarks."

~ Al Bernstein, Hall of Fame commentator
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I know it's hard for some people to admit it but boxing has evolved ALOT since durans day.
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:31 AM   #326
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this poll is embarrassing, duran fought prime atg's, matched wits and wills with them

floyd had a tough time boxing with miguel cotto
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"Moving fluidly and jabbing, slipping punches and countering rather than swarming over DeJesus, he stalked him, relentlessly wearing him down and coolly destroying him with savage punches to the body. For 11 rounds Duran bested the classic boxer at his own game, robbing him of his speed and his will to fight, and only then did he permit himself the luxury of putting DeJesus away.”

~ Sports Illustrated, Jan. 30, 1978

“One gets the impression of Duran is that he’s a tough, rough brawler who just wades in and ducks nothing. But all you have to do is look at his face to see that is nonsense. He’s not marked up. He does a lot of cute things in there.”

~ Angelo Dundee, Hall of Fame trainer

"He’s good inside, very good, strong physically. The one thing that surprised me the most was his quickness. And his defensive ability. He moves his head a lot, feints a lot. He’s not an easy man to hit."

~ Carlos Palomino, Hall of Fame welterweight

"Duran actually isn't easy to hit like everyone thinks."

~ Ray Leonard

"Duran has been very under-rated defensively by some analysts. He had good head movement, slipped punches, and got angles on his opponent’s inside. When he slipped those punches he would always be in punching position to land power shots with full balance and leverage. When he was hit he would usually roll with the punch to reduce its effectiveness. He would usually parry an opponent’s jab when he was going to rush inside. Duran was also a master at feinting. He would feint with the lead right and if his opponent’s would lean back, which is a popular tactic amongst modern boxers, they would expose their body and Duran would cleverly switch his attack with a left hook counter to the liver."

~ Monte Cox, boxing historian

"Duran's always been the master at defense, that's one of his trademarks."

~ Al Bernstein, Hall of Fame commentator
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Duran would slowly beat Mayweather to a pulp, it'd be a tsunami of violence, floyd would be having visions of the ambulance around about 8/9 rounds, shitting & pissing blood by 12, he'd look like a jigsaw puzzle with some of the pieces missing, no way he makes it to 15. beaten to a pulp on the ropes, usual outcry for boxing to be banned
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:46 AM   #328
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mayweather is more skilled by miles. duran had skills be he is known as hands of stones. not the wizard or grandmaster. he could punch like how a donkey kicks he even knocked out a horse before. if mayweather had anything over duran it would be his skills if not anything else.hell id give mayweather the skills over duran before i gave him the speed and we all know he had them both over duran. keep it 100 why the **** is the polls so close because broner won last night ? lol
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Absolutly spot on! James Toney is just another example of a boxer who is streets ahead of this phantom farce Mayweather

****in skills!!! If mayweather had the skills he would'nt have spent these last 6 years avoiding all clear & present dangers, his resume is piss poor at best! Mayweather is just a gob shyte fraud, if Castillo can **** him up & Judah best him for 5 rounds then Mayweather's gonna get ****in murdered by Duran/SRL/Hearns & co. Only a premature ejaclator would think that mayweather has more skill!!!! SKILL? What ****ing SKILL? Sqeaking past an old man in DLH, WBU standard HATTON! C Level scrapper GATTI, D Level BAG of CEMENT Baldomir

Mayweather is a joke & the jokes on boxing! Mayweather is shit scared to fight a midgit How the **** can anyone with an ounce of common sence say that this fraud Mayweather has more skill that Duran If the likes of SRL can have his arse handed to him then how the **** is this one punch at a time! Stay on the ropes! Hide behind the shoulder & hope for the best! Where is the skill that will nullify Duran's all out assault & how the **** is Mayweather going to be even able to breath!

Where is this so called skill that mayweather possess that can overcome the titans! He ai'nt ****in got what it takes period! He'll always look good against selected opponants. But there is absolutly no way that he could ever overcome the premier league boxers like Duran/SRL/Benitez & Hearns. Mayweather is tailor-made for Duran & Duran is one of the slickest boxers out there, go read what Angelo Dundee said about him. AS an ealier poster quite rightly pointed out, these daft cunts who coo over Floyds **** don't actually understand the real meaning of Skill or as to how it ought to be correctly defined & presented. If mayweather had all this vaunted SKILL he'd not be the coward he is! Would he
Truly one of the worst posts in ESB history. Only a **** sucking faggot would o so far to deny Floyds skill.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:46 AM   #330
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this thread is quite disturburbing man these young cats and dickriders just dont have a clue they think because they watched a few youtube videos they know it all....duran is higher on the atg list and is more skilled and beats floyd anyday any weight
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