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Old 08-18-2012, 05:14 AM   #1
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Default Why do people say Michael Moorer has a glass chin?

Michael Moorer was koed twice by two of the alltime heaviest punchers: George Foreman & David Tua. Why do people say he has glass jaw? On the Foreman fight he took a lot of heavy punches from George and was seemingly unfazed by them before that KO blow landed. And ok Holyfield floored him couple of times.

Why do people say Moorer has a glass jaw?
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Old 08-18-2012, 05:22 AM   #2
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Default Re: Why do people say Michael Moorer has a glass chin?

Because Max Schmelling's losses' video recordings r lost 2 time .

And then Muhammad Ali got his S saved by Angelo Mirena vs George 4man & Henry Cooper and enjoyed 2 fixes against a 15 yrs older than himself Charley Liston .


BTW , both Holyfield & Michael Moorer enjoyed exactly d same kind of a cheat that Clay enjoyed vs Henry Cooper , against Bert Cooper .
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Old 08-18-2012, 05:22 AM   #3
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Default Re: Why do people say Michael Moorer has a glass chin?

Cooper could whack as well but he looked shaky there. Great fight though.
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Old 08-18-2012, 06:34 AM   #4
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Michael Moorer was koed twice by two of the alltime heaviest punchers: George Foreman & David Tua. Why do people say he has glass jaw? On the Foreman fight he took a lot of heavy punches from George and was seemingly unfazed by them before that KO blow landed. And ok Holyfield floored him couple of times.

Why do people say Moorer has a glass jaw?
Foreman in his comeback form wasn't an alltime heavy puncher at all. How many significant opponents he stop during his comeback? That's right, only Moorer. Even Morrison stayed on his feet through the entire 12 rounds.

Plus, it's also the way he went out. He was completely out of it after the first punch Tua landed.
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Old 08-18-2012, 06:42 AM   #5
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I would say that Foreman was still very heavy handed. Moored getting knocked out by him showed that Moorer was less focused/able than even Morrison, who did successfully navigate Big George, who was slow as molasses in his comeback.
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:29 AM   #6
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Chris Byrd went full 12 rounds with Tua. Do you think this is because Byrd is a ironjawed warrior in comparison to Moorer, or might there be something else to the equation?
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Byrd was younger and more evasive than Moorer .
Also Tua hit Moorer while Moorer was down
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Chris Byrd went full 12 rounds with Tua. Do you think this is because Byrd is a ironjawed warrior in comparison to Moorer, or might there be something else to the equation?
Byrd was always known for being tough as nails and a smart operator. Way too small for the weight (considering he was going up against) when was he stopped in his prime bar Ike?

Yes, Byrd was a more sturdy operator than Moorer.
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:31 AM   #9
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Chris Byrd went full 12 rounds with Tua. Do you think this is because Byrd is a ironjawed warrior in comparison to Moorer, or might there be something else to the equation?
Yes, Byrd was definitely more durable than Moorer. Moorer went down pretty much any time a heavy who could hit (Cooper, Tua) and sometimes against heavies not known for their power (Holyfield, Bigfoot Martin, Foreman in his old non-KO scoring form).

Byrd, by contrast, went the distance with Wlad (at the peak of his offensive powers), Tua (again, in his 2nd-best career shape), Vitali Klitschko and roided up McCline (who was the first to drop Peter). He did get stopped by Wlad later and Ibeabuchi, but in both case took monster shots and was still on his feet by the end of it.

Nope, not even close.
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:56 AM   #10
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Moorer was knocked out by big punchers but he was also knocked down by just about every heavyweight he faced. He was also knocked down in both fights with Holyield, several times before being stopped in the second fight. He was hurt badly by Frans Botha and almost blew that fight. Moorer had a bad chin as a heavy and a bad style as a heavy because he liked to block and parlay punches at close range rather slip and move on his toes and that wasnt going to work against the bigger better punchers and thats why he was on the canvas a lot as a heavy.
Moorer didnt have a glass chin but he had a pretty bad one.
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Probably has something to do with being down 6 times against Holyfield in their two fights, twice against Cooper, once against Everrett Martin, KO'd by Foreman and Tua, etc.
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Foreman in his comeback form wasn't an alltime heavy puncher at all. How many significant opponents he stop during his comeback? That's right, only Moorer. Even Morrison stayed on his feet through the entire 12 rounds.

Plus, it's also the way he went out. He was completely out of it after the first punch Tua landed.
I think it's more due to Foreman's style change than him no longer being the massive puncher that he was in the 70s. George was never a 1 punch KO kind of guy, he got most of his KOs by unleashing a series of big punches and never allowing the chance to recover. In the 90s, Foreman never really went after someone and unloaded with more than 3 or 4 punches, unlike what he did in his prime.

I don't think Moorer's chin was glass, but it wasn't good either. It was average. Having an average chin against huge punchers like Foreman, Tua, and Cooper will inevitably result in knockdowns and knockouts. If his chin was glass, he'd have never survived the Cooper fight and he would've been blown out by Foreman much sooner. We all know Moorer was in complete control of the Foreman fight, but Foreman was still getting a hard whack or two in that would've likely dropped or hurt lesser oponents.
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Old 08-18-2012, 11:55 AM   #13
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He is certainly chinny.
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:05 PM   #14
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I don't think Moorer's chin was glass, but it wasn't good either. It was average. Having an average chin against huge punchers like Foreman, Tua, and Cooper will inevitably result in knockdowns and knockouts. If his chin was glass, he'd have never survived the Cooper fight and he would've been blown out by Foreman much sooner. We all know Moorer was in complete control of the Foreman fight, but Foreman was still getting a hard whack or two in that would've likely dropped or hurt lesser oponents.
^This is the only reasonable comment among the last few posts in this thread.
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:20 PM   #15
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I think it's more due to Foreman's style change than him no longer being the massive puncher that he was in the 70s. George was never a 1 punch KO kind of guy, he got most of his KOs by unleashing a series of big punches and never allowing the chance to recover. In the 90s, Foreman never really went after someone and unloaded with more than 3 or 4 punches, unlike what he did in his prime.

I don't think Moorer's chin was glass, but it wasn't good either. It was average. Having an average chin against huge punchers like Foreman, Tua, and Cooper will inevitably result in knockdowns and knockouts. If his chin was glass, he'd have never survived the Cooper fight and he would've been blown out by Foreman much sooner. We all know Moorer was in complete control of the Foreman fight, but Foreman was still getting a hard whack or two in that would've likely dropped or hurt lesser oponents.
Aye, the rest of this thread is like The Twilight Zone.
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