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Old 08-21-2012, 11:33 AM   #31
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Default Re: Floyd Patterson 'Oh, My Achin Back' 11/22/65

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I'm just surprised Pepe isn't trying to insinuate that Ali went over to Floyd's house during the night, jumped full force on Floyd's back while he was asleep, then ran out.

"Hey Rabbit.....!!! I'm gonna jump on your back and never look back. I'm sure gettin' tired and weary at Pepe and all this conspiracy theory" !!
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:19 PM   #32
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Some Fight Facts,

Floyd Patterson was a 3-1 Underdog

It was 'Even-Odds' that the fight didn't go 5-Rounds.

Cassius Clay received 40% of the gross-net receipts.

Floyd Patterson received 20% of the gross-net receipts.

Convention Center attendance (8300)

Closed Circuit outlets (232)

Gross receipts; $5,350,000

Promoter; I-C-P (Inter-Continental-Promotions) Vice-President, Sonny Liston

Closed Circuit Operator; Sports Vision (President, Fred Brooks)
Jeez Senor, you've enlightened me. It should have been Thad Spencer vs. Ali (oops, Cassius M. Clay) in Vegas 11/22/65. What the hell was I thinking? Floyd had only come back after the Liston quinella with big wins over Machen and Chuvalo. Thad had those big second tier wins (and losses) that certainly warranted Floyd stepping aside and letting the Babe school the overrated Clay...
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:38 PM   #33
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Jowcol.

Everything that I have posted is a FACT.

Floyd Patterson had earned the #1 Heavyweight position in late-1965.

But, he entered the ring, with a serious back injury.

Of course, a $600,000 payday would make anybody do anything in 1965.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:03 AM   #34
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So u claim Patterson's back was fine in their 1st fight ?
I'm saying it didn't change shit, Franky........ Ali was gonna eat Floyd's ass alive either way........


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Old 08-22-2012, 01:10 AM   #35
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I'm saying it didn't change shit, Franky........ Ali was gonna eat Floyd's ass alive either way........


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Like he ate Doug Jones' / Alonzo Johnson's or Henry Cooper's ?

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Old 08-22-2012, 06:51 AM   #36
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Like he ate Doug Jones' / Alonzo Johnson's or Henry Cooper's ?

The best fight in the ring on November 22, 1965 in Las Vegas.

Thad Spencer vs. Amos Lincoln, a wild 10-Round slug-fest that had
the 8300 Convention Center fans cheering throughout.

Las Vegas Sun,

"One of the best heavyweight fights of the year, and this will be a
tough act to follow for Mr. Clay and Mr. Patterson.'
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:19 AM   #37
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Like he ate Doug Jones' / Alonzo Johnson's or Henry Cooper's ?

Oh yes,Frankie ! By 1965,Ali was a far more mature fighter than he was when he fought the three whom you mention. Especially the Johnson fight. The young Cassius Clay was around nineteen years of age at that time.
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:34 AM   #38
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Oh yes,Frankie ! By 1965,Ali was a far more mature fighter than he was when he fought the three whom you mention. Especially the Johnson fight. The young Cassius Clay was around nineteen years of age at that time.
But then Floyd Patty was considered far better quality than them 3 , outpointing Machen whom outpointed Jones , outpointed Chuvalo whom KOd Jones , KOing Cooper himself .

Ali almost always beat some way or another handicapped opponents , when he "beat" them at all and people assume that he would have done just the same if their handicap was not there , he must be the greatest to scam so many , but then again maybe not , because the Republican Party and religion do just the same .
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But then Floyd Patty was considered far better quality than them 3 , outpointing Machen whom outpointed Jones , outpointed Chuvalo whom KOd Jones , KOing Cooper himself .

Ali almost always beat some way or another handicapped opponents , when he "beat" them at all and people assume that he would have done just the same if their handicap was not there , he must be the greatest to scam so many , but then again maybe not , because the Republican Party and religion do just the same .

Don't get me started on the Republican Party !!!!!!


The Mad Hatter's tea party in all but name !
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:57 AM   #40
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This is a Fact,

The Nevada State Boxing Commission was so 'pissed' at Floyd Patterson for
hiding is injury, and flat out 'lying' to the Boxing Commission Physician, that they
put him on a 'lifetime suspension', and banned him from ever fighting in Las Vegas again.

He tried to re-apply for a Nevada Boxing License in 1967, and he was told 'NO'.

He never fought in Las Vegas again.

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Don't get me started on the Republican Party !!!!!!


The Mad Hatter's tea party in all but name !
U might b taiping in a textbook inglish , but i did not understand
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:27 AM   #42
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Dr. Michael Blatt,

Floyd Patterson's personal doctor,

'I begged Floyd to call off the bout, as he was in no condition to fight anybody,
let alone Cassius Clay. I told him you're crazy Floyd, if you can't move you
can't fight.'

'He said, if I just hit him once, it will make my night. I told him, only fools talk
like that, lets pack it up and come back another day when you're 100%.'

'He said he was worried that he would never get another chance at the Heavyweight
Championship, because he was 30 years-old, and all these young kids are coming
up the ladder fast.'
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:41 AM   #43
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U might b taiping in a textbook inglish , but i did not understand

In other words,the Republican party are a bunch of fruitackes !!
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:42 AM   #44
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Floyd Patterson,

It was revealed, that Floyd Patterson was hiding a 'chronic back problem'
upon entering his bout with Cassius Clay on November 22, 1965.

Though he was asked several times by the Nevada State Boxing Commission,
Floyd denied having any problems.

After the bout, the New York Times vehemently wrote about Floyd entering
the bout incapable of properly defending himself, and unable to deliver any quality punches.

'Floyd should not have entered the ring, and cancelled the bout. But he was so concerned
about being dismissed as a heavyweight championship challenger in the future, that he
momentarily grabbed the spotlight, and felt the need to satisfy contractual obligations.'

Pepe........Do a statistical breakdown on the young Cassius Clay's fight with Corky Baker.
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This is a Fact,

The Nevada State Boxing Commission was so 'pissed' at Floyd Patterson for
hiding is injury, and flat out 'lying' to the Boxing Commission Physician, that they
put him on a 'lifetime suspension', and banned him from ever fighting in Las Vegas again.

He tried to re-apply for a Nevada Boxing License in 1968, and he was told 'NO'.

He never fought in Las Vegas again.

This is silly. In fact Floyd only fought once before in Vegas, so the fact that he never fought there again after the Ali fight means very little, especially when you consider that Vegas wasnt the boxing center it would become until years after Patterson retired. Nice try duce.
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