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Old 08-22-2012, 06:40 AM   #16
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I have often wondered how much the guys get for domestic fights prior and even a British Title fight.

Doesnt sound like its that much so without any sponsorship, fighting 5/ 6 times a year isnt going to get you very far so you definately need another source of income, until you surpass domestic level.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:59 AM   #17
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lets say a fighter is 4-0 a good fighter but not a huge name but well known on average show undercard and building your name you get around 1.1 grand 25% goes to manager, your taxed and 10% to trainer, 50 pounds is also paid to someone to wrap your hands as this is specialist job usually at pro shows theres one or two guys running around wrapping everyones hands. So you get 1.1 grand minus all your reductions your walking with maybe 800 pounds or so. as a prospect your trying to build your name and need to sell a good 80-100 tickets each time you fight at 30 pounds a pop so you can only really fight 4 maybe 5 times a year max although more realisticly your out 3 times a year...do you really think you can live of 5 grand a year!? you also get around 10% of tickets sales so someone like evalgou who aint all that great but can sell a ticket is making good money purely because he sells 800 odd tikcets so eddie pays him well!

then lets say you progress to 9-0 you get a southern area title shot which is around 2.5 grand although again it depends on how many tickets you sale and what you did as an amatuer but im talking an average fighter will only get 2.5-4 grand for a southern area title shot progress to british title 10-16 grand...again it jus depends how marketable you are and how many tickets you sale. I know some fighters who won abas and where big names turned over with ****** and they got 10 grand per fight but thats not the common. on the other hand i know a very recent british titlist who only got 3 grand for defending his title! so it really depends but 90% of pros work on top of their boxing.

Managers and promoters wont sign you unless you can sell a tikcet unless your willing to go on the road and act as journeyman which is the only real way to make a living out of the sport but who the **** wants to be known as a profesional loser?!

the game really does need a shake up someone like spencer fearon is great for the sport becuase hes not worried about ticket sales and he gives his fighters oppurtunitys and fights without having them worry about selling tickets! this means the fighter can knuckle down and focus on his training instead of constant facebook and twitter updates and askign everyone under the sun whether they wanna spend 30 pounds hard earned money to see them bash up a journeyman...

any long story short theres **** all money in pro boxing and even less being a trainer who only gets 10% of a 1.1 grand purse whch is around 100 pounds so your giving up your time to come and train a fighter to get 100 pounds most of these guys do it for first and foremost the love of the sport and secondly because there waiting for that chance to get that million to one shot at a title and maybe make some money out of it.

You also pay about a grand yearly to get your medical bills all paid brain scan eye test etc. i know a pro whos actaully lost money out of turning pro and hes 3-0 and a great prospect. the way the business works put alot of people off it but thats the way it is promoters dont really promote they just get prospects to sell tickets you didnt all this shit about undefeated records back in the 50's and 60's a fight was just that a fight now you got to any card you choose and its full of 80-20 fights which are neither good to watch, interesting or good for the sport.

Also with regards to amatuers at the top level olympians there on 32 grand a year plus they are in sheffeild monday to thursday weekly were all there meals, living space bills etc are paid for then they go home and train with there club coaches friday to sunday at the top teir you get 32 grand and theres 4 tiers of funding the bottom level are the commonwealth types who train in sheffeild once every 2 weeks and are on 8 grand a year.

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Ricky Burns still works 1 day a week at a sports shop!
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:52 AM   #19
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Im sure I read in boxing news that chunky got 60,000 a year.

Thank for input smigga.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:21 AM   #20
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Ricky Burns still works 1 day a week at a sports shop!
doesn't he do this as he enjoys it?
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Im sure I read in boxing news that chunky got 60,000 a year.

Thank for input smigga.
no worry pal!
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he would have made more money as a salesman I reckon Him and fraudley could have started a company together like trotters independent


I think they already did - they called it 'The WBA World Heavyweight Title Fight'.
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I think they already did - they called it 'The WBA World Heavyweight Title Fight'.
You mean Audleys date with destiny?
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You mean Audleys date with destiny?


Sounds like Blind Date in Hell. Primadonna Kool would be the only contestant.
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In reality the 40k an amateur makes is worth a lot more than 40k a pro would make due to not having any of the above deductions taken off them
they also get a car and other useful perks
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lets say a fighter is 4-0 a good fighter but not a huge name but well known on average show undercard and building your name you get around 1.1 grand 25% goes to manager, your taxed and 10% to trainer, 50 pounds is also paid to someone to wrap your hands as this is specialist job usually at pro shows theres one or two guys running around wrapping everyones hands. So you get 1.1 grand minus all your reductions your walking with maybe 800 pounds or so. as a prospect your trying to build your name and need to sell a good 80-100 tickets each time you fight at 30 pounds a pop so you can only really fight 4 maybe 5 times a year max although more realisticly your out 3 times a year...do you really think you can live of 5 grand a year!? you also get around 10% of tickets sales so someone like evalgou who aint all that great but can sell a ticket is making good money purely because he sells 800 odd tikcets so eddie pays him well!

then lets say you progress to 9-0 you get a southern area title shot which is around 2.5 grand although again it depends on how many tickets you sale and what you did as an amatuer but im talking an average fighter will only get 2.5-4 grand for a southern area title shot progress to british title 10-16 grand...again it jus depends how marketable you are and how many tickets you sale. I know some fighters who won abas and where big names turned over with ****** and they got 10 grand per fight but thats not the common. on the other hand i know a very recent british titlist who only got 3 grand for defending his title! so it really depends but 90% of pros work on top of their boxing.

Managers and promoters wont sign you unless you can sell a tikcet unless your willing to go on the road and act as journeyman which is the only real way to make a living out of the sport but who the **** wants to be known as a profesional loser?!

the game really does need a shake up someone like spencer fearon is great for the sport becuase hes not worried about ticket sales and he gives his fighters oppurtunitys and fights without having them worry about selling tickets! this means the fighter can knuckle down and focus on his training instead of constant facebook and twitter updates and askign everyone under the sun whether they wanna spend 30 pounds hard earned money to see them bash up a journeyman...

any long story short theres **** all money in pro boxing and even less being a trainer who only gets 10% of a 1.1 grand purse whch is around 100 pounds so your giving up your time to come and train a fighter to get 100 pounds most of these guys do it for first and foremost the love of the sport and secondly because there waiting for that chance to get that million to one shot at a title and maybe make some money out of it.

You also pay about a grand yearly to get your medical bills all paid brain scan eye test etc. i know a pro whos actaully lost money out of turning pro and hes 3-0 and a great prospect. the way the business works put alot of people off it but thats the way it is promoters dont really promote they just get prospects to sell tickets you didnt all this shit about undefeated records back in the 50's and 60's a fight was just that a fight now you got to any card you choose and its full of 80-20 fights which are neither good to watch, interesting or good for the sport.

Also with regards to amatuers at the top level olympians there on 32 grand a year plus they are in sheffeild monday to thursday weekly were all there meals, living space bills etc are paid for then they go home and train with there club coaches friday to sunday at the top teir you get 32 grand and theres 4 tiers of funding the bottom level are the commonwealth types who train in sheffeild once every 2 weeks and are on 8 grand a year.

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Old 08-22-2012, 11:55 AM   #27
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Selling tickets is a big part of a pro boxers job. It's difficult.

People will say they'll come, but actually getting the money off them - a different story!
Your telling me mate...ive fought before and i expected to sell at least 10 tickets but just felt like a cheeky cunt asking (almost like begging) and even my best mate wouldnt come cause his excuse was 'im having my afro cut that day'!! no bullshit.

I sold 2 tickets in the end (a lot of people from my club and family had free entry anyway so limited who i could sell too) and sold at price I got them for so i didnt look a tosser selling none so made no commision either. If your not an elite fighter (at least British level) then the best avenue to make it in the fight game is MMA as I know in the UK there on a few grand and the standard is appaling
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:43 PM   #28
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Money in boxing is getting worse and worse.
A fight for British would get you less than 10G on allegedly channel, or so they say.
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I would say that a number of boxers may work in the entertainment industry as part owners in clubs, doormen etc. Some may work as builders, doing up property and renting. I think it's great that some boxers continue to work in their normal day jobs, it keeps their feet on the floor.

There appear to be a lot of overheads in boxing as others have mentioned. It's not a great paid job if your not popular and don't get exposure and sponsorship. (considering the risks)

I know some journeymen are keen not to get stopped in a fight so that they can fight regularly. This could be counterproductive for health reasons.

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Old 08-22-2012, 02:15 PM   #30
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man that's pretty crazy..

i wondering how cats like mitchell and other inactive boxers survive??
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