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Old 08-22-2012, 04:42 PM   #31
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Quality post sir Your defo in the 'know' so who are you?
Is it one of the smiths?
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Old 08-22-2012, 04:52 PM   #32
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i thought smigga was paul smith?
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:02 PM   #33
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Ricky Burns still works 1 day a week at a sports shop!
really, as in some place like JJB?
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:06 PM   #34
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really, as in some place like JJB?
That's exactly where
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:12 PM   #35
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Is it one of the smiths?
Yeah, Wolfie Smith.
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man that's pretty crazy..

i wondering how cats like mitchell and other inactive boxers survive??
The figures here are slightly exagerated especially at british title level, guys like Kevin Mitchell get paid quite well, their was an article once he blew 250k on a spending spree, then few months later it said he blew 100k on Booze seperately.. I'm sure him and Burns will get excess 200k each for their upcoming fight, when Degale and Groves fought for the british title they split 400k between them (240-160k)

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^ i hope that figure is bull regarding mitchell. Plus we read about FW sorted his mortgaed out for a few months.
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When Degale and Groves fought for the british title they split 400k between them (240-160k)
didn't dave Coldwell win the purse bids for it and vvarren bought them off him?
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didn't dave Coldwell win the purse bids for it and vvarren bought them off him?
Something like that.. but the Purses think stayed the same.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:03 PM   #40
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I'm quite curious to know how much Brook gets, fighting on primetime saturday on SkySports, and selling out the motorpoint arena in Sheffield 10k fans with tickets ranging from 30-150 must do some good business at the live gate, he should be on 300-500k a fight, but maybe Eddie is short changing him.

Sky should pay more for boxing, they are paying an average 6 million per Premier league game, Football popularity is on another level, but still boxing has done some good viewing figures on Sky this year with Froch and Brook fights,
to think only 80k is split between the Prizefighter boxers, when you got Betfair sponsoring it, Livegate and Skysports coverage. it really should increase, other atheletes in other sports are making millions, boxing is one of the toughest sports in the world and only few boxers at the top level are making big money.

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Old 08-22-2012, 08:18 PM   #41
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lets say a fighter is 4-0 a good fighter but not a huge name but well known on average show undercard and building your name you get around 1.1 grand 25% goes to manager, your taxed and 10% to trainer, 50 pounds is also paid to someone to wrap your hands as this is specialist job usually at pro shows theres one or two guys running around wrapping everyones hands. So you get 1.1 grand minus all your reductions your walking with maybe 800 pounds or so. as a prospect your trying to build your name and need to sell a good 80-100 tickets each time you fight at 30 pounds a pop so you can only really fight 4 maybe 5 times a year max although more realisticly your out 3 times a year...do you really think you can live of 5 grand a year!? you also get around 10% of tickets sales so someone like evalgou who aint all that great but can sell a ticket is making good money purely because he sells 800 odd tikcets so eddie pays him well!

then lets say you progress to 9-0 you get a southern area title shot which is around 2.5 grand although again it depends on how many tickets you sale and what you did as an amatuer but im talking an average fighter will only get 2.5-4 grand for a southern area title shot progress to british title 10-16 grand...again it jus depends how marketable you are and how many tickets you sale. I know some fighters who won abas and where big names turned over with ****** and they got 10 grand per fight but thats not the common. on the other hand i know a very recent british titlist who only got 3 grand for defending his title! so it really depends but 90% of pros work on top of their boxing.

Managers and promoters wont sign you unless you can sell a tikcet unless your willing to go on the road and act as journeyman which is the only real way to make a living out of the sport but who the **** wants to be known as a profesional loser?!

the game really does need a shake up someone like spencer fearon is great for the sport becuase hes not worried about ticket sales and he gives his fighters oppurtunitys and fights without having them worry about selling tickets! this means the fighter can knuckle down and focus on his training instead of constant facebook and twitter updates and askign everyone under the sun whether they wanna spend 30 pounds hard earned money to see them bash up a journeyman...

any long story short theres **** all money in pro boxing and even less being a trainer who only gets 10% of a 1.1 grand purse whch is around 100 pounds so your giving up your time to come and train a fighter to get 100 pounds most of these guys do it for first and foremost the love of the sport and secondly because there waiting for that chance to get that million to one shot at a title and maybe make some money out of it.

You also pay about a grand yearly to get your medical bills all paid brain scan eye test etc. i know a pro whos actaully lost money out of turning pro and hes 3-0 and a great prospect. the way the business works put alot of people off it but thats the way it is promoters dont really promote they just get prospects to sell tickets you didnt all this shit about undefeated records back in the 50's and 60's a fight was just that a fight now you got to any card you choose and its full of 80-20 fights which are neither good to watch, interesting or good for the sport.

Also with regards to amatuers at the top level olympians there on 32 grand a year plus they are in sheffeild monday to thursday weekly were all there meals, living space bills etc are paid for then they go home and train with there club coaches friday to sunday at the top teir you get 32 grand and theres 4 tiers of funding the bottom level are the commonwealth types who train in sheffeild once every 2 weeks and are on 8 grand a year.

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Smigga bang on the money literally!

Pro-boxer i know even told me that he learned the hard way shifting tickets.He took 30 from a promoter it was a small hall show & he wasn't contracted to a particular promoter at the time but friends all said 100% they would go.He was getting 1k to fight & they were 30 tickets so 900 total.

In the days leading up to the fight he had about 5-10 pull out so rather than lose face with the promoter he just swallowed the loss himself!So that was an extra deduction.It was only one of his first fights but like he said after you make your debut unless you have a real following or strong promotion behind you it's hard to shift decent amounts of tickets.

The stark reality of working your way up a card then really hits home working then training the guys that make a good living deserve it.

It can also get to the stage that even the journeymen fighters will actually at times get better paid than the prospects as not only friends may not make the fight but also an opponent!Tough way to make a living!
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:16 AM   #42
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The money is absolutely shite. Believe me ... Or you, me as Richie would say. But I think the sport will now change for the better. More fighters matched against each other competitively, less need for journeyman.

TV was ****ing it up in a lot of ways.
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Old 08-23-2012, 04:01 AM   #43
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I'm quite curious to know how much Brook gets, fighting on primetime saturday on SkySports, and selling out the motorpoint arena in Sheffield 10k fans with tickets ranging from 30-150 must do some good business at the live gate, he should be on 300-500k a fight, but maybe Eddie is short changing him.
no way is Brook on 300-500K, I don't even think Danny Garcia got that in a unification bout in America I would guess he would be on maybe 80,000 at best and that is a pure guess
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no way is Brook on 300-500K, I don't even think Danny Garcia got that in a unification bout in America I would guess he would be on maybe 80,000 at best and that is a pure guess
Yeah he'd be on nowhere near 300k!

Gotta remember that there's a massive argument that its Hearn who got the 10,000 strong crowds in by putting on a strong undercard and getting Brook a lot of exposure.

Before Hearn he wouldn't have sold out the Motorpoint, hell he couldn't now without a good undercard and a name opponent.
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:38 AM   #45
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Without a full time job most wouldn't survive a boxer I know was getting 1500 for a non tv central area title ,and my mate who's a trainer and as a well paid full time job doesn't take his 10% 9 times out of 10
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