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Old 08-22-2012, 04:47 PM   #16
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Dude, I wouldn't be so confident that he will have a strength advantage over everyone down there either. It remains to be seen. He isn't bigger than all guys down there. Aldo is a beast and will probably weight more than Frankie. Mendes is a beast also, not sure Frankie can out-wrestle him.
Please, don't buy into this media myth that Frankie Edgar is an ickle little bantamweight fighting the big boys. It's wildly, wildly exaggerated. Edgar's torso is huge and the guy is as strong as a bull. He will manhandle 99% of featherweights with ease, including Mendes.

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Guy isn't even particularly small for a lightweight FFS. He's short and isn't as big as the big lw's like Maynard and Bendo, but he isn't some sort of midget at the weight, his torso is big.

This is what a guy looks like if he's genuinely undersized for the weight:

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Edgar isn't big for a lightweight, but he isn't undersized, and he'll be a monster at featherweight. The size thing is waaaaaaaaaaaay overplayed.
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Old 08-22-2012, 04:54 PM   #17
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Yeah but he won't be as big and strong fighting down there as he is at LW. That's a point, very often missed when fighters move down. Fans think they will actually be the same size an strength, they wont.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:58 PM   #18
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Maynard wrestled at 157 in college, as did Ben Henderson. Faber wrestled at 133. Kos was at 174. All of them fight near their college wrestling weight. Edgar was at 141.

Just as most people claim and as you can see with your own eyes in the cage, Edgar is a lot smaller than the guys at 155.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:28 PM   #19
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Maynard wrestled at 157 in college, as did Ben Henderson. Faber wrestled at 133. Kos was at 174. All of them fight near their college wrestling weight. Edgar was at 141.

Just as most people claim and as you can see with your own eyes in the cage, Edgar is a lot smaller than the guys at 155.
He's shorter, sure. And he isn't as big or heavy as the biggest lw's like Maynard and Henderson. But Edgar's torso is big. He is not a greatly undersized lightweight, like Penn was as a welter.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:42 PM   #20
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Most likely. Love watching Aldo but he seems a bit too reckless but I'm not sure if his speed and striking would nullify Edgar more technical approach(from the bits I've seen from him lol). Wasn't impressed with Aldo against Florian but he's crafty and I'm sure Edgar wouldn't utilize the same strategy. Will see the Hominick fight if I haven't.

Fight I'd watch with a smile on my face and a dvd I'd pay for happily. Hope fight does happen if both can make the weight safely.


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Old 08-22-2012, 09:13 PM   #21
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Most likely. Love watching Aldo but he seems a bit too reckless but I'm not sure if his speed and striking would nullify Edgar more technical approach(from the bits I've seen from him lol). Wasn't impressed with Aldo against Florian but he's crafty and I'm sure Edgar wouldn't utilize the same strategy. Will see the Hominick fight if I haven't.

Fight I'd watch with a smile on my face and a dvd I'd pay for happily. Hope fight does happen if both can make the weight safely.

Also is about as technical a striker as you will find in MMA. He isn't very reckless.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:52 PM   #22
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Also is about as technical a striker as you will find in MMA. He isn't very reckless.
I need to look at his more recent stuff then such as his fight with Hominick. A few of his early rds ko(don't feel like looking them up) seemed like he could've paced himself more but he still got the W's. Maybe I'm being too critical?
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He's shorter, sure. And he isn't as big or heavy as the biggest lw's like Maynard and Henderson. But Edgar's torso is big. He is not a greatly undersized lightweight, like Penn was as a welter.
Why is it that all the other fighter I named (and there are more) fight close to their college wrestling weight except Edgar, but somehow that just doesn't apply to him? His optimal weight, assuming that what holds for everyone else holds for him is more than a full weight class lower than where he won the title. He should get at least as much props as Penn or anyone else who's clearly fighting guys whose optimal weight is much higher than theirs.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:50 PM   #24
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He will bring the fight to Aldo, much better than Faber could.

Faber seemed off that night though
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:23 AM   #25
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Edgar won't have a speed advantage over the (majority of) guys at 145 like he did at 155.
That's why he won't be as effective there IMO
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