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Old 08-23-2012, 01:30 PM   #76
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Why hasn't this guy made a clip of Bradley landing some punches? The reason is they don't exist. His clip is all about his hatred of Lampley and nothing to do with what happened in the fight. YOU DO NOT SCORE LANDING ON PEOPLES ARMS AND GLOVES! Are People really this dumb.?
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:43 PM   #77
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Why hasn't this guy made a clip of Bradley landing some punches? The reason is they don't exist. His clip is all about his hatred of Lampley and nothing to do with what happened in the fight. YOU DO NOT SCORE LANDING ON PEOPLES ARMS AND GLOVES! Are People really this dumb.?
if you watched the entire Video you would have seen that he covered that as well and not only did he cover it he exposed how HBO blatantly said nothing each and every time Bradley was scoring.
Ohh and BY the way in case you didnt know the person who made that video is a Pacquiao fan, and hates the **** out of Floyd
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:45 PM   #78
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how do you annihilate someone yet end up in a wheel chair with 2 legs bandaged all the way up to your balls?
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Old 08-23-2012, 02:36 PM   #79
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you drank the koolaid along with 95% of the viewers I am not a Flomosapien I hate Floyd, I will not lie for Pacquiao just because I hate Floyd either. Bradley won HBO sold you some bullshit the video below displays their blatant biased
Anybody who post bogus compu box stats doesnt know shit about what they talking about watch the full video you have no argument once you do
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I've already seen the fight with the sound off, I honestly have tried very hard to see how Bradley could have won as maybe I and the other 95% missed something. Also sometimes you just expect something and when things don't go that way you have an automatic bias in scoring the fight. I felt that the outrage for JMM-Pac was unfair as a closer look at the fight without the great expectations for a Pac runover shows a very close fight with many swing rounds, people will give me shit for watching that fight in slow-mo but it takes a lot of patience to do that and IMO really shows that you really wanna know the truth for yourself without external circumstances influencing your bias. I still scored it for JMM by a round, you would have to be quite generous to score a draw for Pac and very generous to score a win for Pac which the judges were that night. However, given that there were so many swing rounds, it was still IMO justifiable, hence why despite the majority thought JMM won, most had it a draw and some had Pac winning.

I tried to approach the Pac-bradley fight from this pov and gave Bradley the benefit of doubt, I still cant score it for him. If I was to give him every close round, it would still be 7-5 to Pac, so a draw would have still been a shit decision but a win? Baffles me.

Compubox is not the deciding factor for scoring a fight, I already said that, however, it is indicative of how a fight went. Look at all compubox fights and you will see a correlation between compubox numbers and the winner, specially when its that big disparity between 2 numbers. Also I find compubox to be inaccurate as when I counted punches landed in Pac-JMM 3, it was a lot less than compubox stated, however it was pretty much in ratio of true punches landed ie compubox says JMM landed 14, pac 13 it may have been more like Pac 8, JMM 11. Sure not 100% accurate but provides a good resource.

Now I already said thats not the deciding factor, when you take into account that Pac nearly landed double in compubox, 95% of viewers at home thought Pac won, 95% of people at the arena who wasnt listening to HBO's bias thought Pac won, 95% of media insiders thought Pac won, the 5 WBO judges unanimous in Pac win, Bradley himself needing to review the tape to see if he won, you add all those factors together and you know who won.

I know you're not a flomo and I'm sure you are being unbiased in your scoring, however you are in a huge minority in your opinion and 'usually' that means you are wrong. Having said that, I'm not flaming you, you're entitled to your opinion, you're obviously seeing something else from us and some rounds were close enough that given how subjective boxing scoring is, maybe it may just fall to Bradley.

Pac's fault for fighting 1 min of every round IMO, judges score heavily against inactivity. That was the worst performance of Pac i've ever seen, he looked like a physical beast in JMM 3 despite losing but absolute shite in that Bradley fight. IMO if Pac of the JMM 3 fight turns up, he stops Bradley easy but he may have just peaked physically in that fight and its all downhill from here. Stamina is the first to go in aging fighters, not a good sign.
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:16 PM   #80
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he had pac on queer street a couple of times but couldnt finish him...
The bell rang ending several rounds where Bradley had him badly hurt and ready to go.


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Old 08-23-2012, 03:21 PM   #81
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Bradley won but didnt win by the way fans expect a fighter to win when Pulling off an upset they expect a dominant beat down or a brutal Kayo fans today are not happy with a close decision that favors the underdog its almost an un written requirement to beat him nearly to death or to put the mother ****er in a coma anything less the champ was robbed
if you want to have any credibility on this site, please refrain from writing incredibly stupid posts.

bradley was pretty much dominated. he didn't win you numb skull.
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:22 PM   #82
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timmy won but there are too many pactards
tim did nothing but get beat in convincing fashion.
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:24 PM   #83
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First of all, he didn't annihilate shit. The fight could have went either way, regardless of the outrage of the beloved Pac fiends, mixed with HBO's extremely biased commentary. Pac hardly landed any punches. He had a very hard time landing on Bradley. Bradley landed more, but can't crack and egg. Literally many of Bradley's punches aren't even noticeable as having landed to the head of Pacman, unless you analyze the video and slow it down.

Bradley is not that popular, even with a win over Pacquiao, because he doesn't have any power. Slick guys with no pop, aren't exciting to watch for casual boxing fans. If Bradley had decent pop, many more people would want to watch him. Hell if he had more pop, there wouldn't have been any controversy over the fight with Pacman, because he would have won it decisively.


is this thread where all the ****ing morons come? it sure looks like it to me.

bradley won? just too stupid for words.
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:29 PM   #84
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Honestly, its stupid ass posts like these that makes me question why the **** i even come to this site. . .

and its people like the op that make MMA fags look intelligent

boxing really does have the worst and most idiotic fans of any sport out there. The thread starter, and anyone who agrees with this garbage needs to go chug down some Draino and end themselves
Alts, alts, alts, alts and alts..............unly one IP-adress should be aloud..........
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Danny Flexen, Boxing News: 115-113 Bradley
Cameron Sharpe, Boxing Fancast: 115-115 Draw
Dave Cokin, Lotus Broadcasting Las Vegas: 114-114 Draw
Chris Manix, Sports Illustrated: 115-113 Pacquiao
Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
Gordon Marino, The Wall Street Journal: 115-113 Pacquiao
Armando Alvarez, Telemundo: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jake Donovan, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Terry Dooley, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 116-112 Pacquiao
Brett Okamoto, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Bunce, BoxNation.com/BBC: 116-112 Pacquiao
Andreas Hale, FightNews.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao
George Willis, The New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao
Rick Reeno, ***********.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao
Ben Thompson, FightHype.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao
Suge Green, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Zemach, The Queensbury Rules.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Michael Nelson, TheCruelestSport.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Tom Gray, SecondsOut.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Joel Sebastionelli, LIITR Box Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao
CheckHook.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
********************: 116-112 Pacquiao
Ricky Hatton: 116-112 Pacquiao
Wayne McCullough: 116-112 Pacquiao
Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Alexander Belenky, Sport-Express.ru: 116-112 Pacquiao
Rob Day, ***************: 117-112 Pacquiao
Ryan Burton, ***********.com: 117-112 Pacquiao
Matt Youmans, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/FightNews.com/ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
Stephen Edwards, BoxingTalk.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
Ron Borges, Boston Herald: 117-111 Pacquiao
Cliff Rold, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Chris Robinson, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
David Mayo, The Grand Rapids Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
Robert Little, BlackSportsOnline.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
David Greisman, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Benny Henderson, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Graham Parker, The Guardian (UK): 117-111 Pacquiao
Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
Luis Sandoval, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Jonathan Sakti, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
Richie Tomasini, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
Tim Starks, The Queensbury Rules: 117-111 Pacquiao
Champ Ross, DaTruthBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 117-111 Pacquiao
Darren Velasco, 8CountNews.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Ryan Maquinana, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
George Diaz, The Orlando Sentinel: 117-111 Pacquiao
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao
FightersRated.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao
Tommy Gunn, *****************: 117-111 Pacquiao
NoHoldsBarred.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao
John Raspanti, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Ron Lewis, Primetime/BBC: 117-111 Pacquiao
Brent Brookhouse, SBNation.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Alexey Sukachev, Sports.ru: 117-111 Pacquiao
Kevin Mitchell, The Guardian (UK): 118-112 Pacquiao
Steve Lillis, BoxNation: 118-111 Pacquiao
Brett Newton, Pound4Pound.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Joseph Herron, FightSaga.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Mark Lyons, 8CountNews.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Danny "Swift" Garcia: 118-110 Pacquiao
Mike Koppinger, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Ryan Songalia, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Pete O'Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao
John McCormick, BoxingTalk.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Eric Raskin, TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Chuck Giampa, Showtime: 118-110 Pacquiao
John Russell, boxing trainer (Buster Douglas trainer): 118-110 Pacquiao
Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 118-110 Pacquiao
Jeff Mayweather: 118-110 Pacquiao
Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Kelsey McCarson, TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Mario Cabrera, The Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao
Ramon Aranda, 3MoreRounds.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Colin Seymour, Examiner.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Nigel Collins, Espn.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Paddy Cronan, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 118-110 Pacquiao
Denzil Stone, OnTheBreak.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Phil Jay, WorldBoxingNews.net: 118-110 Pacquiao
Geoffrey Ciani, EastSideBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Michael Rosenthal, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
Eugeny Pilipenko, Vringe.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Vadim Zhuk, Championat.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 119-111 Pacquiao
Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 119-110 Pacquiao
Barry Tompkins, Showtime: 119-110 Pacquiao
Vittorio Tafur, The San Francisco Chronicle: 119-109 Pacquiao
Ray Markarian, TheSweetScience.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao
Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
Max Parker, BoxingWatchers.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
Scott Sawitz, Fox Sports/Inside Fights: 119-109 Pacquiao
Leroy Cleveland, FightSaga.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
Michael Woods, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
Michael Marley, BoxingConfidential.com/Examiner.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
Skip Bayless, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
Among the experts above, 111 scored the bout for Pacquiao, 2 scored the bout a draw, and 1 scored the bout for Bradley.
None of the scores for Pacquiao were offered by Philippine media.
The score for Bradley was not provided by American media
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:30 PM   #86
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bradley was pretty much dominated. he didn't win you numb skull.
Umm No bradley was not dominated as I said that Video in this thread exposes the Biased set forth by HBO and pactards
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Honestly, its stupid ass posts like these that makes me question why the **** i even come to this site. . .

and its people like the op that make MMA fags look intelligent

boxing really does have the worst and most idiotic fans of any sport out there. The thread starter, and anyone who agrees with this garbage needs to go chug down some Draino and end themselves
someone with a bit of sense. by far the best post i've seen in some time.

this site is like a disease.
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:32 PM   #88
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Umm No bradley was not dominated as I said that Video in this thread exposes the Biased set forth by HBO and pactards
he was dominated. pac landed the heavier and clearer shots all night. bradley won one clear round.
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Umm No bradley was not dominated as I said that Video in this thread exposes the Biased set forth by HBO and pactards
umm no, he pretty much was. stop watching boxing if you think bradley won that fight. you do it a major disservice.

this is the reason boxing is going to die out completely. bacause of morons like yourself.
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he was dominated. pac landed the heavier and clearer shots all night. bradley won one clear round.
Shut the **** up Manny did not dominate he didnt land the cleaner harder shots all night get the **** out of here with your lies.
If Manny himself felt that way we would have had an immediate rematch

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umm no, he pretty much was. stop watching boxing if you think bradley won that fight. you do it a major disservice.

this is the reason boxing is going to die out completely. bacause of morons like yourself.
Boxing is dying out because of the blatant biased by networks writers and fans, what happend there was pac fought a lazy fight how do you expect to win a fight fighting only 30 seconds per round? get ****ing real
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