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Old 08-23-2012, 05:57 PM   #61
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Ok Bob you make a compelling argument...

Now tell that to Rogan

Now the entire UFC card is scrapped because Jones didn't accept a fight with a 185lb'er who is completely out of shape. WOW. Just wow.

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He just cost a lot of people a lot of money
Which is Rogan's way of saying, "Hey, we know it'a s pointless and stupid fight, but we all want to get paid!" It's not Jon Jones job to pay those guys or put on good cards.
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:59 PM   #62
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Which is Rogan's way of saying, "Hey, we know it'a s pointless and stupid fight, but we all want to get paid!" It's not Jon Jones job to pay those guys or put on good cards.
No it's the fans via the UFC...same guys who are paying Jones' ****ing wages
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Old 08-23-2012, 06:03 PM   #63
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It is on Jones.
No, it isn't.

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Jones turned the fight down and killed the card.
Jones turned down a fight. The fact that the card was weak killed it. Had there been a solid co-main, there'd be no real problems. Obviously not an ideal situation, but infinitely better than scrapping a whole card.

There have been cancelled main events before, but generally there's at least a semi-decent headline fight ready to move into the top spot.

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Nobody else except Jones made that call.
Jones made the call to turn down a fight on ****ing 8 days notice. I'm not saying it's the right decision, but it's the one he made. He turned down a fight, that is all.

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But the cancellation is on Jones, because he had an option to fight on, but he made the call to pull the card.
In what world did Jones make that call? Last I checked Dana and the Fertita bros. run the UFC. Last I checked there were 20 other fighters on that card, all ready to fight, and it's the promoters fault that none of them were ready to carry a PPV. Jones didn't build a weak card around one fight.
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Old 08-23-2012, 06:06 PM   #64
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Which is Rogan's way of saying, "Hey, we know it'a s pointless and stupid fight, but we all want to get paid!" It's not Jon Jones job to pay those guys or put on good cards.
No, but it is his job to fight. How many fights have been cancelled over the past couple of years, and how many times have the co-headliner gone on to fight someone else on the same card?

There are a lot of guys on the undercard that were depending on this event to take place. Jones was going to get paid, so it's not like it would have been for free. But it will be ok for Jones. He'll still get his pay day next month. What about all of these poor fighters with lesser names.

Jones shouldn't be stripped of his title, forced out of the company, or suspended for a while; but he deserves every one of the "**** you, you selfish cunt" thoughts going through so many people's minds at this moment.
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Old 08-23-2012, 06:47 PM   #65
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damn i'm sad for my boy Hendo, He wanted this fight bad. i know father time his breathing down his neck and this can't help his cause if and when this fight gets rescheduled
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:01 PM   #66
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I wonder if Dana will tell us "it is what it is." That always helps to clarify things.
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:33 PM   #67
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Hope Machida puts Jones in a coma.


Everyone gets screwed but Jones.

UFC gets screwed (guys who made Jon's brand and made him rich)

Paying fans get screwed

ALL THE UNDERCARD FIGHTERS who NEED that cash don't get a payday now...saw Charlie Brennemann tweeting Jones his P.O box saying he needs rent now...lol

This was bigger than Jones. And he ****ed up. He'll be forever black balled now and you can guarantee if he ever slips up Dana will be all over it.
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:47 PM   #68
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Hope Machida puts Jones in a coma.


Everyone gets screwed but Jones.

UFC gets screwed (guys who made Jon's brand and made him rich)

Paying fans get screwed

ALL THE UNDERCARD FIGHTERS who NEED that cash don't get a payday now...saw Charlie Brennemann tweeting Jones his P.O box saying he needs rent now...lol

This was bigger than Jones. And he ****ed up. He'll be forever black balled now and you can guarantee if he ever slips up Dana will be all over it.
I think it's up to upper management to make sure fighters get paid, not Jones. What would have happened had Jones and Hendo both been injured? Jones didn't cancel the card.
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:49 PM   #69
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Id be very interested to hear if they are getting paid some sort of guarantee , might explain Dana's overreaction
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:56 PM   #70
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I think it's up to upper management to make sure fighters get paid, not Jones. What would have happened had Jones and Hendo both been injured? Jones didn't cancel the card.
The card wouldn't have gotten cancelled if not for Jones.


That's as close to "Jones cancelled the card" as you can get.



He decided he was above doing his job.
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:58 PM   #71
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The card wouldn't have gotten cancelled if not for Jones.


That's as close to "Jones cancelled the card" as you can get.



He decided he was above doing his job.
It could have been a card that took a huge hit because of Jones. Instead, now it's a card that's not happening at all because of Zuffa.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:07 PM   #72
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I don't disagree with zuffa being to blame.


Jones just deserves the lions share imo. It's his job to fight, he decided he was above doing his job. That type of attitude is just ****ed to me.
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:36 PM   #73
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**** Jon Jones ! wtf he won't fight a shit middle weight on 4 days notice who wasn't even training to fight ? Which by the way should tell all you bonetards how pathetic a division 205 really is.To bad Chaels not a washed up pride fighter, fight would have happened ......
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:37 PM   #74
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Sonnen would be pulling a Haye and getting a big check without earning it lol. Don't blame Jones for not wanting to fight him as he looked like garbage in his last two fights and hasn't done anything at 205 lately. Backfired on Dana and zuffa to expect this card not to crumble anyways with the absense of solid matchups. As said before, what if both Jones and Henderson were injured? Sucks we don't see this fight but I put fault on the matchmakers more than anything.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:13 PM   #75
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**** Jon Jones ! wtf he won't fight a shit middle weight on 4 days notice who wasn't even training to fight ? Which by the way should tell all you bonetards how pathetic a division 205 really is.To bad Chaels not a washed up pride fighter, fight would have happened ......
Chael would likely lose to Jones' last five opponents.
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