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View Poll Results: Rampage vs Jones
Rampage circa '03 (Liddell, Randleman fights) 5 19.23%
Jones circa '11/'12 (Machida, Evans fights) 21 80.77%
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:41 AM   #1
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Default The best Pride Rampage Jackson vs current Jon Jones

Have been re-watching some vintage Rampage this week, I think many people (most definitely myself included) have forgot what an absolute beast this guy was back in his physical prime and when he used his wrestling, because of the tired, toothless, one-dimensional boxer he became in his later UFC days.

In 2003, the Rampage who overpowered prime Chuck Liddell and Kevin Randleman was a ****ing MONSTER. OK, he would meet his match in the extreme ultraviolence of the peak Muay Thai facekicking ferocity of Wanderlei and Shogun, but every fighter who fights peak versions of the best fighters on the planet will find their Kryptonite eventually. 'Page was still a genuinely brilliant fighter back around '03.

How do you guys think that version would have done against Jones? Jones is a very good striker, but he definitely doesn't have the raw KO power of Wanderlei nor the incisive killer instinct of prime Shogun. I think the best Rampage could easily match if not exceed Jones in terms of grappling strength.

This fight is a very, very interesting one to ponder. Thoughts?
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:33 AM   #2
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if the fight is in a pride ring it mite be closer because jones wouldn't have so much room to move but still picking jones
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:10 AM   #3
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'03 isn't prime Rampage.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:13 AM   #4
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Default Re: The best Pride Rampage Jackson vs current Jon Jones

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'03 isn't prime Rampage.
It's the best he ever looked in my opinion, but you can answer the thread question based on whenever you think Rampage was best, up to you.

The best Page vs the current Jones.

Your verdict?
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:21 AM   #5
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Rampage never beats Jon Jones because he never understood kicking range. Page gets picked apart in any era by Jones.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:21 AM   #6
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Rampage is outclassed at any stage in his career.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:54 AM   #7
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I was actually thinking during their fight that I wish it was a prime Rampage.
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:44 AM   #8
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I was actually thinking during their fight that I wish it was a prime Rampage.
Please elaborate.
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Rampage never beats Jon Jones because he never understood kicking range. Page gets picked apart in any era by Jones.
Always difficult to compare fighters under different promotions, different era's, different rules, and at different stages of their career. But you write Rampage off far too easily. There was a time when Rampage was legitimately the second best heavy in the world behind Wand. Under PRIDE rules do you truthfully believe Jones wouldnt be in a serious fight vs Rampage?
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:06 PM   #10
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Always difficult to compare fighters under different promotions, different era's, different rules, and at different stages of their career. But you write Rampage off far too easily. There was a time when Rampage was legitimately the second best heavy in the world behind Wand. Under PRIDE rules do you truthfully believe Jones wouldnt be in a serious fight vs Rampage?
Shogun?
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:51 PM   #11
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I may actually watch some old Rampage PRIDE fights just to remind myself of what a BEAST he was when he could actually be bothered ****in fighting.

To answer your question however, I still think Jon Jones beats him.

I will not elaborate on that as i don't wanna give that absolute ****er more credit than i have too.
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Always difficult to compare fighters under different promotions, different era's, different rules, and at different stages of their career. But you write Rampage off far too easily. There was a time when Rampage was legitimately the second best heavy in the world behind Wand. Under PRIDE rules do you truthfully believe Jones wouldnt be in a serious fight vs Rampage?
I think I summed up my argument perfectly. Feel free to reread if needed. Jones is a complete fighter - and Rampage never was. Only a complete fighter will defeat Jon Jones.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:11 PM   #13
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Rampage could never **** with Jones... Rampage is not a complete fighter like Jon Jones! Rampage was always a one trick pony..
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:11 PM   #14
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I think I summed up my argument perfectly. Feel free to reread if needed. Jones is a complete fighter - and Rampage never was. Only a complete fighter will defeat Jon Jones.
Riiight...Funny Bas used to say the same thing about Page back in PRIDE...
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:00 PM   #15
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I think Jones would find it strange somewhat had he faced Page, Shogun and Wand in pride.

He can't use his elbows so he has to punch only (note how important the elbow is to his game), and he can't just crazily pull guard and be on his back as stomp and soccer kicks are allowed. He'll surely find it difficult to get past those.

I really can't say he'll lose to Rampage, but he'll surely get his payday's worth while being there.
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