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View Poll Results: Who has the better defense?
Khan 0 0%
Brook 36 92.31%
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:34 AM   #16
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Thanks for the responses. I started this thread after Laz claimed Brook was just as hittable as Khan & I couldnt convince him otherwise.

I was curious to see if others shared this opinion as it seems fairly obvious to me that Brook is better defensively.
Actually, most people stated that his is not much better. Also, getting people's opinions does not prove he has better defense. If you put how many people thought Khan would beat Garcia and Peterson, that was at 90% + on polls. Not that I disrespect people's opinions, but I'm sure there's a ton of people that disagree just as much. Also, I rather you'd have showed me some conclusive evidence rather than people's opinions because at the end of the day, I doubt many of them have actually evaluated Brook's fights, his opposition and balanced it out with what and who Khan has fought without thinking of his recent losses/knockout.

I've watched Brook more than enough, and if I felt that way, I would openly say it, just like after watching more of Brook, I did acknowledge that he had a solid jab when I previously said he did not (in reference to what skills just said). Watching a fighter and seeing if he has better defensive ability is better than seeing what people on a poll think, my friend.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:36 AM   #17
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Kell Brook obviously though that is not saying much frankly.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:39 AM   #18
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He doesn't rate Brook's jab neither ..
Brook has a really good jab.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:55 AM   #19
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Khan doesn't have any defence, seriously.

so brook by default
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:00 AM   #20
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running around the ring away from battle is not defensive skill imo
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:02 AM   #21
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Actually, most people stated that his is not much better. Also, getting people's opinions does not prove he has better defense. If you put how many people thought Khan would beat Garcia and Peterson, that was at 90% + on polls. Not that I disrespect people's opinions, but I'm sure there's a ton of people that disagree just as much. Also, I rather you'd have showed me some conclusive evidence rather than people's opinions because at the end of the day, I doubt many of them have actually evaluated Brook's fights, his opposition and balanced it out with what and who Khan has fought without thinking of his recent losses/knockout.

I've watched Brook more than enough, and if I felt that way, I would openly say it, just like after watching more of Brook, I did acknowledge that he had a solid jab when I previously said he did not (in reference to what skills just said). Watching a fighter and seeing if he has better defensive ability is better than seeing what people on a poll think, my friend.
I'm not sure I can add much to the post I made in that other thread. What conclusive evidence could I provide?

I could mention that against Jackiewicz (spelling) in one round the Pole didnt land a single punch, I could post gifs of Kell doing pull counters & check hooks but I doubt it would convince you.

I could mention the vast stylistic differences between Khan & Brook, their differing attributes & tactics but its just an observation.

If, having watched both fighters you arrive at the conclusion that they are on about the same level defensively then I'm not sure what to say, other than I disagree.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:05 AM   #22
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running around the ring away from battle is not defensive skill imo
the more I think about it, the more I realise, I really could do without seeing Khan in a boxing ring ever again.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:08 AM   #23
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the more I think about it, the more I realise, I really could do without seeing Khan in a boxing ring ever again.
Khan is pure entertainment, love him or hate him.

Why would you not want to see him in the ring again?
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:09 AM   #24
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Khan is pure entertainment, love him or hate him.

Why would you not want to see him in the ring again?
He's the most frustrating fighter I have ever seen.

I don't love OR hate him

but watching him is nightmarish, i find myself wondering where the **** his fundamentals are, constantly
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:14 AM   #25
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Well khan has a less then average defence but judging by Brooks last fight his isn't great either. We can't really judge Brooks defence until he steps up to world level. Then we'll sew how good his defence is IMO.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:22 AM   #26
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I'm not sure I can add much to the post I made in that other thread. What conclusive evidence could I provide?

I could mention that against Jackiewicz (spelling) in one round the Pole didnt land a single punch, I could post gifs of Kell doing pull counters & check hooks but I doubt it would convince you.

I could mention the vast stylistic differences between Khan & Brook, their differing attributes & tactics but its just an observation.

If, having watched both fighters you arrive at the conclusion that they are on about the same level defensively then I'm not sure what to say, other than I disagree.
Well, posting some comparisons where both fighters were put in similiar situations and then comparing how each did would be a start, but fair enough, if you feel there's not much, I'm cool with it.

I'm sure I could also post a fair few videos and gifs of Khan bobbing and weaving, too. That's not quite what I meant.

Yeah, I don't see much of an advantage to either fighter and as I don't think the fighters Brook has fought are on the caliber of who Amir has fought, it makes me think that more so.

I'm fine with that. Just like most of my standing debates, we'll just agree to disagree till the day comes.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:25 AM   #27
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He's the most frustrating fighter I have ever seen.

I don't love OR hate him

but watching him is nightmarish, i find myself wondering where the **** his fundamentals are, constantly
What fundamentals are you talking about here?
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:26 AM   #28
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the more I think about it, the more I realise, I really could do without seeing Khan in a boxing ring ever again.
it is quite entertaining for the fans but really he as been found out imo,
i mean he as many flaws i am ammussed as none of the khan fans could not see them untill of late if he wants to keep putting his health at risk for our entertainment so be it
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:28 AM   #29
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What fundamentals are you talking about here?
Amir's brain.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:29 AM   #30
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What fundamentals are you talking about here?
All of them
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