Boxing - The most tempting sport to skip the basics

r1p00pk · 08-31-2012, 11:55 PM

and to jump into the advanced moves and counters

anyone agree?

I recently have been going back to the basics, as do a few people in my gym now but im lucky im the newest there. I came from a mcdojo then went to an acual gym got beat up nicely and had to relearn everything, listened to my coaches but practiced advanced flashy looking combos, footwork, counterpunches. Now im back to the drawing board with footwork especially, im off position majority of the time to punch but it just clicked today the last moment in the gym when i asked my coach to move around a bit to show me how he moves so smoothly and is always in a position to attack. So now im relearning my footwork again but im glad that i caught on before i really made it a really bad habit.

A few people in my gym are having to work on there jab now, and other people with there footwork. It was odd watching the more experienced guy with a few fights having trouble with the basic footwork and now im constantly preaching to my brother not to jump into things, slow down, master the basics before doing any of those things.

Anyone had this problem?

Matty lll · 09-01-2012, 04:08 AM

"In no sport is the temptation stronger than in boxing to run before you can walk. It is a temptation more strenuous than some others to be resisted. You must learn to stand in position before you begin to hit..." - J.G Bohun Lynch

Jappa · 09-01-2012, 06:59 AM

Yup.

I always felt like a prick shadow boxing, sparred an ex pro, got battered and wondered why it was so easy for him to counter my jab and basically... I jabbed once infront of a mirror and saw the problem.

My chin doesn't tuck in to my shoulder when I pop my jab.

Squire · 09-01-2012, 07:08 AM

I feel one problem could be when new guys spar and one guy is focusing entirely on doing things technically correctly and ends up robotic as a result, but the opponent isn't bothering with that and just swings for the fences, the second guy is likely to get the better. I imagine that would be beneficial for the one trying to get the fundamentals right, but only in the long run. It must be pretty discouraging at first

bballchump11 · 09-01-2012, 11:40 AM

I agree 100% I've been training for years and I'm still trying to perfect my positioning/stance and my footwork.

Bogotazo · 09-01-2012, 02:40 PM

Absolutely. In fact I think this thread has kind of reminded me that the next time I go to train, I simply need to revisit and revamp my fundamentals.

Pugsley · 09-03-2012, 12:49 PM

a bit of philosophy here: It takes the longest time to learn the simplest things. In boxing true as well.

08-31-2012, 11:55 PM	#1
r1p00pk Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,283 vCash: 253	Boxing - The most tempting sport to skip the basics and to jump into the advanced moves and counters anyone agree? I recently have been going back to the basics, as do a few people in my gym now but im lucky im the newest there. I came from a mcdojo then went to an acual gym got beat up nicely and had to relearn everything, listened to my coaches but practiced advanced flashy looking combos, footwork, counterpunches. Now im back to the drawing board with footwork especially, im off position majority of the time to punch but it just clicked today the last moment in the gym when i asked my coach to move around a bit to show me how he moves so smoothly and is always in a position to attack. So now im relearning my footwork again but im glad that i caught on before i really made it a really bad habit. A few people in my gym are having to work on there jab now, and other people with there footwork. It was odd watching the more experienced guy with a few fights having trouble with the basic footwork and now im constantly preaching to my brother not to jump into things, slow down, master the basics before doing any of those things. Anyone had this problem? Last edited by r1p00pk; 09-01-2012 at 04:07 PM.
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09-01-2012, 04:08 AM	#2
Matty lll Sweet Scientist East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,730 vCash: 500	Re: Boxing - The most tempting sport to skip the basics "In no sport is the temptation stronger than in boxing to run before you can walk. It is a temptation more strenuous than some others to be resisted. You must learn to stand in position before you begin to hit..." - J.G Bohun Lynch Last edited by Matty lll; 09-01-2012 at 08:24 AM.
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09-01-2012, 06:59 AM	#3
Jappa Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 511 vCash: 500	Re: Boxing - The most tempting sport to skip the basics Yup. I always felt like a prick shadow boxing, sparred an ex pro, got battered and wondered why it was so easy for him to counter my jab and basically... I jabbed once infront of a mirror and saw the problem. My chin doesn't tuck in to my shoulder when I pop my jab.
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09-01-2012, 07:08 AM	#4
Squire Never Truly Lost East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Korea Posts: 10,490 vCash: 7213	Re: Boxing - The most tempting sport to skip the basics I feel one problem could be when new guys spar and one guy is focusing entirely on doing things technically correctly and ends up robotic as a result, but the opponent isn't bothering with that and just swings for the fences, the second guy is likely to get the better. I imagine that would be beneficial for the one trying to get the fundamentals right, but only in the long run. It must be pretty discouraging at first
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09-01-2012, 11:40 AM	#5
bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: GA Posts: 33,587 vCash: 524	Re: Boxing - The most tempting sport to skip the basics I agree 100% I've been training for years and I'm still trying to perfect my positioning/stance and my footwork.
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Bogotazo Amateur East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New York Posts: 17,478 vCash: 294	Re: Boxing - The most tempting sport to skip the basics Absolutely. In fact I think this thread has kind of reminded me that the next time I go to train, I simply need to revisit and revamp my fundamentals.
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09-03-2012, 12:49 PM	#7
Pugsley Fat Bastard ESB Full Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 336 vCash: 1000	Re: Boxing - The most tempting sport to skip the basics a bit of philosophy here: It takes the longest time to learn the simplest things. In boxing true as well.
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