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Old 09-04-2012, 10:10 PM   #1
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Default If the Klitschkos Fought in the 60s-70s.

How would the Kbros fare if they fought in the 60s-70s?
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:47 PM   #2
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How would the Kbros fare if they fought in the 60s-70s?
throw in any atg into another era and I believe they will still be great. Not sure how things would play out...but history would be altered for certain.
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:06 PM   #3
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They would be sparring partners in different camps, but they would have been nothing...period
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:13 PM   #4
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They would be sparring partners in different camps, but they would have been nothing...period
You also thought a fight between Ken Buchanan and Evander Holyfield would have been competitive, so maybe we'll ignore your opinion.
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:14 PM   #5
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They would have been the ones to beat.

Only the top dogs would beat them, and they would have trouble.

Against the top tier, the bros win some, lose some.

Phillyphan is right; history would be different to be sure....
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:32 AM   #6
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They would rule.
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:52 PM   #7
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They would rule.
Bullshit! They wouldn't be the beefcakes they were at that time. And they certainly wouldn't be the aforementioned beefcakes in the 40's-50's.
Example: The Lennox Lewis nut-hugging idiots have started threads here, and elsewhere pitting their hero against Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, etc...with the result being full-blown blowouts??
You want to put the Klit boys in a time machine and send them back to 1910-1950 and watch them destroy anything in their path.
No one seems to look at how Dempsey or Louis or Patterson, or Tunney, etc, etc, had they come along in circa 2000 would have been heavier, more chisleled specimens.
Granted its a pet peeve with me but this comparing fighters in vastly different eras is a complete waste of time and weakens our love of boxing history.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:03 PM   #8
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Bullshit! They wouldn't be the beefcakes they were at that time. And they certainly wouldn't be the aforementioned beefcakes in the 40's-50's.
Example: The Lennox Lewis nut-hugging idiots have started threads here, and elsewhere pitting their hero against Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, etc...with the result being full-blown blowouts??
You want to put the Klit boys in a time machine and send them back to 1910-1950 and watch them destroy anything in their path.
No one seems to look at how Dempsey or Louis or Patterson, or Tunney, etc, etc, had they come along in circa 2000 would have been heavier, more chisleled specimens.
Granted its a pet peeve with me but this comparing fighters in vastly different eras is a complete waste of time and weakens our love of boxing history.
Really? OK, you're right.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:40 PM   #9
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Bullshit! They wouldn't be the beefcakes they were at that time. And they certainly wouldn't be the aforementioned beefcakes in the 40's-50's.
Example: The Lennox Lewis nut-hugging idiots have started threads here, and elsewhere pitting their hero against Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, etc...with the result being full-blown blowouts??
You want to put the Klit boys in a time machine and send them back to 1910-1950 and watch them destroy anything in their path.
No one seems to look at how Dempsey or Louis or Patterson, or Tunney, etc, etc, had they come along in circa 2000 would have been heavier, more chisleled specimens.
Granted its a pet peeve with me but this comparing fighters in vastly different eras is a complete waste of time and weakens our love of boxing history.
I love thinking about how fighters from different era's would fare against one another.

I do agree with you on the physical side of it though. People should not simply look at the size of a modern fighter and attribute that as a straight reason as to why they would beat a fighter from previous era.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:02 PM   #10
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Bullshit! They wouldn't be the beefcakes they were at that time. And they certainly wouldn't be the aforementioned beefcakes in the 40's-50's.
Example: The Lennox Lewis nut-hugging idiots have started threads here, and elsewhere pitting their hero against Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, etc...with the result being full-blown blowouts??
You want to put the Klit boys in a time machine and send them back to 1910-1950 and watch them destroy anything in their path.
No one seems to look at how Dempsey or Louis or Patterson, or Tunney, etc, etc, had they come along in circa 2000 would have been heavier, more chisleled specimens.
Granted its a pet peeve with me but this comparing fighters in vastly different eras is a complete waste of time and weakens our love of boxing history.
But you're talking about versions of fighters that never existed in the first place. That's daft. It's almost like you don't have any faith in the old timers at all.
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:14 PM   #11
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they would deffo be up there
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:18 PM   #12
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They would be right behind and completive with Ali in the 60's and in the elite mix in the 70's. If they arrived on the scene in 76, they would have dominated the rest of the decade.
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:54 PM   #13
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They would be right behind and completive with Ali in the 60's and in the elite mix in the 70's. If they arrived on the scene in 76, they would have dominated the rest of the decade.
Explain.
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:52 AM   #14
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well, if we go along with the theory that bigger is better like most on ESB believe religiously than they would be dominant, however if we take a page from one of the many old-timers I knew back in the day who are gone, they would have been too muscled and stiff and lose like most of the big guys of the eras who could not make it to the top.

IMO eras are hard to match because we have no time machines and each man has to be raised in the circumstance and climate of their own era......Eastern Euro fighters could not turn pro back then but if they had been allowed and also had good pro training I am sure they would have been a force

I think the best of all eras are competitive but its hard to travel back 20-30-40 years without losing the benefits of your era.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:32 AM   #15
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I think there would be some intersting match ups between the Klitschkos and the ATGs. I think a Vitali-Foreman and a Vitali-Frazier fight would've been very interesting.

A Wlad-Liston and Wlad-Ali (mid 70s version, not 60s version) also would've been very interesting.
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