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Old 09-09-2012, 06:46 PM   #16
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Maidana is a hype job who failed to demonstrate his supposed power at the top level.

Matthyse is probably the number 3 lww today behind only Garcia and JMM.

Lucas dominates him.
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Old 09-09-2012, 08:07 PM   #17
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Maidana is a hype job who failed to demonstrate his supposed power at the top level.

Matthyse is probably the number 3 lww today behind only Garcia and JMM.

Lucas dominates him.
Garcia is as hopeless against Matthysse as Maidana is. Expect him to duck and dodge that fight after his super important Morales rematch
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Old 09-09-2012, 08:08 PM   #18
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Lucas has considerably better technique as a boxer-puncher, but Maidana has that unpredictability and raw aggression that I think could make the difference. People are seriously underrated him nowadays after a bad performance.
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Old 09-09-2012, 10:28 PM   #19
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Lucas has considerably better technique as a boxer-puncher, but Maidana has that unpredictability and raw aggression that I think could make the difference. People are seriously underrated him nowadays after a bad performance.
I said the same thing before the Alexander fight. Maidana is just a crude slugger. He has power, so he can get lucky, but most good fighters would beat him because he lacks so much skill. He's Mayorgo-lite.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:44 AM   #20
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I'm with the consensus on this one, Matthyse by stoppage or wide decision. He's better than Maidana in most facets, better jab, more efficient with his punching, better at closing down the ring and I've yet to see him hurt like Maidana has been.

It's interesting to note that apparently Maidana beat Matthyse twice from three bouts as amateurs, the other was a draw.
very very very very important post .
Gracias 4 posting it .
It does put this whole Maidana vs Mathysse in a more realistic perspective .
Problem is Maidana is now a welterweight if not more , which helps 2 explain his latest bad showings @ 140 .
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:04 AM   #21
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Problem is Maidana is now a welterweight if not more , which helps 2 explain his latest bad showings @ 140 .
After the Alexander fight he blamed the loss on the weight class and said he's going back down to 140
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:48 AM   #22
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After the Alexander fight he blamed the loss on the weight class and said he's going back down to 140
1) fact is that his last fight was @ 147
2) his next scheduled fight is @ 147 if not 154
3) Y do u think that a reigning titlist would have moved up ? 4d fun ?
____ because he can not make 140 any longer , this is Y .

Right now , Maidana @ 140 = Dawson @ 168 .

I guess d loss was not due 2 him fighting @ a weight 2 high 4 him , even if he lacks d size advantage that he got used 2 having .

And if it really is due 2d weight being 2 high , then still keep my claim of 140 being 2 low 4 him .

He lost , but so far just decisions , and may still have a future @ 147 as far as i m concerned .

going back down 2 140 will b a big mistake 4 him .
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1) fact is that his last fight was @ 147
2) his next scheduled fight is @ 147 if not 154
3) Y do u think that a reigning titlist would have moved up ? 4d fun ?
____ because he can not make 140 any longer , this is Y .

Right now , Maidana @ 140 = Dawson @ 168 .

I guess d loss was not due 2 him fighting @ a weight 2 high 4 him , even if he lacks d size advantage that he got used 2 having .

And if it really is due 2d weight being 2 high , then still keep my claim of 140 being 2 low 4 him .

He lost , but so far just decisions , and may still have a future @ 147 as far as i m concerned .

going back down 2 140 will b a big mistake 4 him .
4d mone? Golden Boy are probably happy to feed him to fighters they see as more lucrative prospects. All I know is he said himself 147 wasn't his weight class
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:07 AM   #24
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4d mone? Golden Boy are probably happy to feed him to fighters they see as more lucrative prospects. All I know is he said himself 147 wasn't his weight class
because he tried 2 excuse his loss ?

y do u think that even his next fight is @ 147 or 154 ?

and that fight is not even against a prospect that is being fed weak opponents .

u ignored some parts of my previous post .
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