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Old 09-10-2012, 04:20 PM   #16
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Seamus, I didn't think you were being anything other than jovial.

Calm down gents.

Burr, I think Matthysse looks better by the fight. But for me, Tim Bradley is still the best of the recent 140lbers. If he doesn't come back down, Matthysse should waste Garcia and claim supremacy.
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:54 PM   #17
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I agree about Ward being a damn good fighter...As I posted Ward reminds me of the WW Buddy McGirt in looks, slyness and intelligence...But either Dawson was weakened by weight making or he was overated on the basis of fighting a weak LH division...
P.S. If as you imply I am "thin skinned", it is because I was born in the Depression days, and my parents couldn't afford thick skin...
I know you aren't thin skinned, Burt. You are welcome to dish it out to me as you like.

Going back further, who would you compare McGirt and/or Ward to? To me, Ward seems to be one of those special fighters who has no holes in his game and controls near every minute of every round. He's a real pleasure to watch.
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:47 PM   #18
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I think Mattysshe stops him by just being plain better, but I wouldn't say he does it early: Gatti was very tough, was a bit bigger than Lucas, and would jab well for atleast a round or two.

Eventually, though, the right hand starts to land, Arturo does nothing to take it away but try to throw more and harder, and the Argentine piles it on over 10 or 11 to just wear Gatti out.
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:52 PM   #19
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I know you aren't thin skinned, Burt. You are welcome to dish it out to me as you like.

Going back further, who would you compare McGirt and/or Ward to? To me, Ward seems to be one of those special fighters who has no holes in his game and controls near every minute of every round. He's a real pleasure to watch.
S, you answered your own question...Andre Ward is a "special" fighter who
by being special, reminds me of no one but himself ...He has CLASS...
But he has to get rid of those white gloves...Like part of a circus routine...
P.S. In a small way Ward reminds me of one of my favorites, Floyd Patterson in the way he answers questions after a fight...Intelligent and modest..
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:02 PM   #20
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I like this Burt! he has some knowledge and is a gent!! I agree with most, if not all of what he says...
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:07 PM   #21
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S, you answered your own question...Andre Ward is a "special" fighter who
by being special, reminds me of no one but himself ...He has CLASS...
But he has to get rid of those white gloves...Like part of a circus routine...
P.S. In a small way Ward reminds me of one of my favorites, Floyd Patterson in the way he answers questions after a fight...Intelligent and modest..
Agreed, Patterson was a class act, and so is Ward. He is a smart guy with a great and humble boxing opinion...
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:34 PM   #22
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Mathysse has gotten better since the Judah fight. His finishing skills and punch placement has really improved. You can tell he has a purpose when he hits you in certain areas. In my opinion, he is the next great JW. I think he would be Bradley. I'd love to see a fight with him and Peterson.
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:31 PM   #23
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RIP Gatti.
I'd have to take Matthysse KO 6 to 8 rounds.
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:20 PM   #24
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I'm a huge Gatti fan but I believe Lucas would win. He's better at the weight, and more importantly he's got a style edge.
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:28 PM   #25
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S, you answered your own question...Andre Ward is a "special" fighter who
by being special, reminds me of no one but himself ...He has CLASS...
But he has to get rid of those white gloves...Like part of a circus routine...
P.S. In a small way Ward reminds me of one of my favorites, Floyd Patterson in the way he answers questions after a fight...Intelligent and modest..
Thanks, Burt.
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:44 PM   #26
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I agree with Burt. White gloves are awful, never liked....
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Old 09-11-2012, 08:52 AM   #27
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Seamus, I didn't think you were being anything other than jovial.

Calm down gents.

Burr, I think Matthysse looks better by the fight. But for me, Tim Bradley is still the best of the recent 140lbers. If he doesn't come back down, Matthysse should waste Garcia and claim supremacy.
Matthysse-Bradley would be a dream fight though.

Thinking about it more Pacquaio is likely all wrong for Matthysse stylistically, although I think Matthysse would do better against Mayweather than Pacquaio would
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Matthysse-Bradley would be a dream fight though.

Thinking about it more Pacquaio is likely all wrong for Matthysse stylistically, although I think Matthysse would do better against Mayweather than Pacquaio would
Everyone sayys that a guy like Pacquaio is wrong, but Lucas has never really had problem with quick guys like him. Mathysse has excellent timing, and he really knows how to work the body and slow guys down. I think a matchup with Pacman would be excellent, and it would end up a slugfest by the end of the fight. Pac is not as consistently mobile as he used to be. Plus, the only time Pac really used his mobility was against bigger fighters. He never did that against the little guys.

I think Mathysse would possibly stop Bradley. I may be biasedl, because I don't like Bradley as a fighter, but Tim would get a close decision loss at best.
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Matthysse would batter Gatti into submission by the 8th round.
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