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Old 09-11-2012, 01:56 PM   #136
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bradley was ring's top 8 p4p fighter before the pac fight and was retained in the same position after the fight.
Epic fail. That link does not point to P4P ratings prior to June 2012. Try again...
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:58 PM   #137
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I'd have Ward at the top.

After Pac's loss to Bradley (even if controversial), I'd bring him down from 2 to 4 behind Floyd and Nonito.

1. Ward
2. Floyd
3. Nonito
4. Marquez
5. Pac
6. Wlad
7. Martinez
8. Froch
9. Vitali
10. Bradley

I was tempted to put Rigo in at 8
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:59 PM   #138
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Epic fail. That link does not point to P4P ratings prior to June 2012. Try again...
you're the epic fail. how can you explain that bradley was already 102 weeks on that p4p list?
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:59 PM   #139
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Default Re: THE RING P4P LIST HAS BEEN UPDATED. Congrats to Andre Ward & Anselmo Moreno.

I had Bradley in my p4p list for a while, but I remember last year having to argue with people over who should be rated higher, Cotto or Bradley and I was saying Bradley

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I'd have Ward at the top.

After Pac's loss to Bradley (even if controversial), I'd bring him down from 2 to 4 behind Floyd and Nonito.

1. Ward
2. Floyd
3. Nonito
4. Marquez
5. Pac
6. Wlad
7. Martinez
8. Froch
9. Vitali
10. Bradley
this is all ****ed up
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Old 09-11-2012, 02:58 PM   #140
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Why are people bringing up 2008 like it matters to current P4P rankings
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:02 PM   #141
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where the **** is froch
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:08 PM   #142
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Default Re: THE RING P4P LIST HAS BEEN UPDATED. Congrats to Andre Ward & Anselmo Moreno.

That list is pretty damn legit. Gotta give RING some props here, especially on the vacant #1 spot. Some points:


- Ward definitely deserves #3 right now, however it could change after this weekend depending on what Martinez does.

- All of you guys *****ing about Floyd and Many being the 1A and 1B of the rankings need to realize they have carried the sport for YEARS now. Regardless of Floyd's layoffs and Pac's recent controversial decisions, these are the two top guys in the sport and nobody out there has done more than them for the last decade or so. Get over it.

- I'm still not sure that Vitali is a p4p level type of guy. But then again guys like Broner, Gamboa, Guerrero, Garcia, etc haven't really done neough to be up there yet so I guess Vitali is on the list due to accomplishment.

- Marquez lovers bich and moan that he should be #2 or #3 or whatever. Here's the bottom line, he gave away those close fights to Pacquiao and hasn't concisively beat a good opponent since 2010. He's not a p4p top 5 fighter at this point in his career.
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:14 PM   #143
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Manny should not even be in the top 5
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:28 PM   #144
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The argument in favor of Martinez and Donaire is that they have continued to win. The philosophy of THE RING Editorial Board is that fighters generally must falter to lose their positions in the ratings. Martinez and Donaire haven’t really faltered.

That’s why Manny Pacquiao remains tied with Floyd Mayweather Jr. at the top of our pound-for-pound ratings. As we wrote previously, we didn’t feel he should be punished for narrowly outpointing a fellow superstar in Juan Manuel Marquez (even if the result was controversial) and handling unbeaten Tim Bradley.


Is it just me or is this paragraph retarded?
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:35 PM   #145
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Manny faltered (officially) in his last fight and they did not dock him.

Manny faltered (unofficially) last November and they did not dock him.
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:37 PM   #146
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I like Moreno, but mares is more deserving even though I think Moreno will beat him
I have to agree here, although I have Moreno/Mares a toss up.

I take all of these rankings with a grain of salt. They are highly subjective.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:17 PM   #147
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I don't understand why anyone would have a vacated #1 spot on their list. That's telling me the judge of the list expects to see abilities and accomplishments far beyond reason. A P4P list is more of a neverending race than anything. In a foot race do you say the guy who is winning isn't #1 just because he isn't running fast enough for you? Ridiculous. If you think Floyd doesn't deserve the top spot due to his inactivity then just give it to Ward, ffs.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:35 PM   #148
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floyd cheated jmm off the scales. it was jmm's first fight above 135 and was lifting stones. pac and jmm was naturally the same size and pac honored the weight while jmm trained better without the **** drinking and lifting of rocks. plus angel heredia did wonders on jmm.
so those 2 pounds mattered? cause ya'll claim 2 pounds didnt matter in the cotto fight
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:41 PM   #149
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How the hell does Nonito rank ahead of Marquez?
i was thinking the exact same thing then i seen your post
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:45 PM   #150
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About time Moreno was in!
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