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Old 09-14-2012, 02:47 AM   #61
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For me part of the issue was the ****ey never developed into the fighter he was hyped to be and showed flashes of. He had tremendous power in his left hand, and decent power in his right. He showed a lot of heart when overmatched against Holmes. But he didn't fight any of the quality fighters he needed at the time: Cobb, Witherspoon, Tillis, Page, Snipes, Berbick, etc. As I recall he said because he wasn't part of Don King's stable he had a hard time getting fights and was somewhat pushed into the Holmes fight when he needed a fight against one of those guys after the Norton KO. Plus because of his power guys avoided him. The only fighter I recall actively calling him out was Marty Monroe, who promptly lost to Page. There was talk of Greg fighting ****ey, but he signed with and lost to Berbick.

After the loss to Holmes he didn't fight for over two years, and apparently hit the bottle quite a bit. Even though he beat the then unbeaten Brown, journeyman Chaplin, and Eddie Gregg, that was less than 7 total rounds of fighting. When he stepped into the ring against Spinks he hadn't developed hardly at all from the ****ey that beat an old Jimmy Young, seven years earlier.
Bad habits, Bad diets, poor training, He coulda been one of the best.
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Bad habits, Bad diets, poor training, He coulda been one of the best.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:55 AM   #63
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Default Re: Spinks vs ****ey. Spinks outweighed by 30Lbs. And he destroys ****ey in 5 rounds.

Its possible those fights with Holmes took alot outa him..more of a tole on him than people think..He was never right after those fights..
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:00 AM   #64
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Default Re: Spinks vs ****ey. Spinks outweighed by 30Lbs. And he destroys ****ey in 5 rounds.

You're right, Jeff Lacy would've been an all time great had he not met Calzaghe.

Had Zarate not destroyed Batista the Brazilian would've went on to beat everyone for the rest of his life.
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You're right, Jeff Lacy would've been an all time great had he not met Calzaghe.

Had Zarate not destroyed Batista the Brazilian would've went on to beat everyone for the rest of his life.
I agree!
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Batista was a badass!
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:15 AM   #68
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And I believe ****ey's prime was short lived...
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Default Re: Spinks vs ****ey. Spinks outweighed by 30Lbs. And he destroys ****ey in 5 rounds.

The other big thing in that ****ey/Spinks fight was the cut mike Spinks got in the 4th round. That was a real bad cut and bleeding badly. If the opponent had been someone other than ****ey, the boxer types could have stopped Spinks for a tko loss. Guys like a Witherspoon or a Tucker or a Bruno or Carl Williams.

That was a silver platter to some fighters and at that stage of the game, ****ey did not have the tools to capitalize. Then again, he was a slugger not a boxer, but a heavyweight boxer in that scenario probably prevents the Spinks/Tyson fight from ever happening.
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The reason for those things is because Spinks beat Holmes.

No other reason was ever needed.
Yes he beat Holmes who Tyson Kod, Tyson also cleaned out the whole division while Spinks played it safe
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:40 AM   #75
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Default Re: Spinks vs ****ey. Spinks outweighed by 30Lbs. And he destroys ****ey in 5 rounds.

The '80-'82 version of ****ey would have destroyed Spinks. ****ey's career was over after the Holmes loss he mentally just could not come back from it. He wasn't developed or moved properly and was not ready for Holmes at that time. How can you fight an active Heavyweight Champion when you haven't fought in 13 months? That is idiotic.

****ey would have done better had he not been with Rappaport and Jones and had he had someone like Gil Clancey as his trainer from the start. Victor Valle was not what ****ey needed.

****ey himself will say he should have never lost to Spinks and it was embarrassing for him. He said he didn't train because he never thought the fight was going to happen there were lawsuits with HBO etc trying to block it.

All credit goes to Spinks for the win. ****ey is a matter of 'what if' he never fulfilled his potential and he has nobody to blame but himself.
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