Prime Joe Louis vs. Prime Tyson(86-89)

quest · 01-26-2008, 05:47 PM

I think Tyson takes him out within the first half of the fight

Sweet Pea · 01-26-2008, 05:48 PM

Agreed.

crippet · 01-26-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by quest

I think Tyson takes him out within the first half of the fight

A 1986 Tyson could not even take out Tillis

janitor · 01-26-2008, 05:57 PM

I think that all the stylistic details favour Louis but the nature of the fight is such that Tyson can potentialy win.

In a fight between two wrecking machines you are usualy on safe ground betting against the guy coming forward.

01-26-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crippet

A 1986 Tyson could not even take out Tillis

A 1936 Louis could not even BEAT a 190 Lbs Schmeling.

Tyson by early round KO.

janitor · 01-26-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Woddy

A 1936 Louis could not even BEAT a 190 Lbs Schmeling.

Schmeling is better than anybody Tyson ever beat at the time he beat them.

brownpimp88 · 01-26-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by janitor

Schmeling is better than anybody Tyson ever beat at the time he beat them.

no he isnt, i would give spinks a very good chance at beating him, schmeling was also very inconsistent so i know he would have dropped decisions to some of the 80s heavyweights.

janitor · 01-26-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by brownpimp88

no he isnt, i would give spinks a very good chance at beating him, schmeling was also very inconsistent so i know he would have dropped decisions to some of the 80s heavyweights.

Spinks could posibly beat Schmeling on a given day but he is not on Schmelings level.

Schmeling in his peak run really only lost to world champions or top flight heavies.

Sharkey (robbery, beat Sharkey previously)
Hamas (No1 contender, avenged)
Baer (all time puncher)
Louis (top 2 all time heavyweight, beat Louis previously)

Can some of the alphabet crew of the 80s split a series with Schmeling?

Absolutely.

Are the greater over all?

Absolutely not.

brooklyn1550 · 01-26-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by quest

I think Tyson takes him out within the first half of the fight

As do I

janitor · 01-26-2008, 06:47 PM

"Even today it is hard to imagine any heavyweight beating him including Muhamad Ali"

Mike Tyson

Russell · 01-26-2008, 08:59 PM

Have to figure that Tyson heard a lot of slightly tinted stories from Cus', who was fond of times gone by, obviously.

Jbuz · 01-26-2008, 09:50 PM

Both are very capable of taking the other out. Though I'd take Louis.

Not because he is an "old-time" fighter. Not because Tyson is Tyson. But because I think Louis is a better fighter, and his style would definately trouble Tyson.

Sweet Pea · 01-26-2008, 09:53 PM

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Both are very capable of taking the other out. Though I'd take Louis.

Not because he is an "old-time" fighter. Not because Tyson is Tyson. But because I think Louis is a better fighter, and his style would definately trouble Tyson.

What style? Slower hands, slower overall movement, open defense, mediocre chin? Sounds like an early Tyson KO to me.

SteveO · 01-26-2008, 09:56 PM

Ref stops the fight between the early rounds.

Tyson wins.

SgrRyLeonard · 01-26-2008, 10:06 PM

I'd pick the Tyson that fought Spinks to beat Louis in a great fight.

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janitor P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19,147 vCash: 1000	Re: Prime Joe Louis vs. Prime Tyson(86-89) I think that all the stylistic details favour Louis but the nature of the fight is such that Tyson can potentialy win. In a fight between two wrecking machines you are usualy on safe ground betting against the guy coming forward.
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Jbuz Belt folder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,753 vCash: 2065	Re: Prime Joe Louis vs. Prime Tyson(86-89) Both are very capable of taking the other out. Though I'd take Louis. Not because he is an "old-time" fighter. Not because Tyson is Tyson. But because I think Louis is a better fighter, and his style would definately trouble Tyson.
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SteveO MSW ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,125 vCash: 1040	Re: Prime Joe Louis vs. Prime Tyson(86-89) Ref stops the fight between the early rounds. Tyson wins. Last edited by janitor; 01-13-2007 at 06:29 PM.
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SgrRyLeonard Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 293 vCash: 1000	Re: Prime Joe Louis vs. Prime Tyson(86-89) I'd pick the Tyson that fought Spinks to beat Louis in a great fight.
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