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Old 09-20-2012, 06:02 PM   #31
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Yeah, that's how I pull 1015lbs, I just walk up and lift it, I don't prance around like some gay first. I'm sure that's how you lift 1015lbs, you just walk up to it and lift it, right?
Right. Whether I could lift it or not is down to how strong I am, not how loud and obnoxious I can get before

BTW I purposely disregarded psychological effects of screaming like a phaggot before lifting to deliver a smart response for a smart question before anyone comments.

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Old 09-20-2012, 07:52 PM   #32
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This is worse than the form police. Now it's the gym etiquette police.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:54 PM   #33
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If that's what it takes for them to get ampted up sufficiently to lift the weight then it's hardly pointless. A big part of lifting heavy weights is psychological; people getting themselves psyched up, whether it's by music, shouting, slapping or whatever is fine by me.
Spot on.
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:10 AM   #34
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I'm gonna go punch an old lady in the face and then smash my ****ing deadlift out.
Dont, youll look like a dick when she slips it, and knocks you out with her counter!
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:12 PM   #35
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Look at this guys: lifting 400kg is so dumb. [ame="***********.youtube.com/watch?v=4xkjobOt6_Q&feature=g-u-u"]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=4xkjobOt6_Q&feature=g-u-u[/ame]
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Old 09-30-2012, 06:38 PM   #36
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how is it just celebrating when they do it before a lift? Its ****ing dumb. You are picking up and putting down a weight, no big deal really. I disagree and think people just do it for the attention and it becomes habit.
If you were a serious lifter you wouldn't be saying this nonsense. Cns stimulation is the most important thing when you're pushing something to the max. Fair point about grunting if they're doing 10 reps of a bodybuilding exercise like a shoulder press or bicep curl but if something requires everything then you need to hype yourself up. Do you have an issue with Olympic weightlifters hyping themselves up as well? Or is it the fact that somebody who is weaker than you is putting a lot of effort into something you can do easily? You take a nap then go and lift 1000 pounds, see how you go.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:03 PM   #37
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Some of you guys clearly underestimate psychology when it comes to lifting weights.

1. Shouting is aggressive and causes a hormonal response within the body. These guys shout and act aggressively before a big lift for this hormonal response. It's not a huge difference, but every little counts when you're lifting heavy shit attempting a new PR.

2. I've never seen a guy casually chatting to his friends, lie down and within 2 seconds just blast out a new bench PR. To lift a ****ing heavy weight you have to psych yourself up for it. Different people have different ways of doing this. one guy may shout, one guy may get his friend to slap him on the back, everybody is different.

3. Somebody mentioned habit earlier. Every athlete that lifts weights at a high level will develop a habit before they do a lift. Walk left to right 3 times each way, jump on the spot, get a slap on the back from a friend, whatever. It may look weird to some but without going through this ritual they've ingrained during their lifting career they'll most likely fail the lift.

4. Attention, as in having people watch you, is a huge game changer. Go check how many athletes set a new PR at the Olympics. When it comes to a venue with thousands or millions watching you I can guarantee that's the point when the PR's will happen.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:07 PM   #38
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If you were a serious lifter you wouldn't be saying this nonsense. Cns stimulation is the most important thing when you're pushing something to the max. Fair point about grunting if they're doing 10 reps of a bodybuilding exercise like a shoulder press or bicep curl but if something requires everything then you need to hype yourself up. Do you have an issue with Olympic weightlifters hyping themselves up as well? Or is it the fact that somebody who is weaker than you is putting a lot of effort into something you can do easily? You take a nap then go and lift 1000 pounds, see how you go.
gonna have to agree %100 on this post.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:36 PM   #39
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how is it just celebrating when they do it before a lift? Its ****ing dumb. You are picking up and putting down a weight, no big deal really. I disagree and think people just do it for the attention and it becomes habit.
Shut the **** up. You only say this cause you're just some casual lifter lifting casual weights. If you were to become serious about putting up more weight, you'd understand how people feel before a big lift and how they feel a need to psyche themselves up.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:26 AM   #40
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Some of you guys clearly underestimate psychology when it comes to lifting weights.

1. Shouting is aggressive and causes a hormonal response within the body. These guys shout and act aggressively before a big lift for this hormonal response. It's not a huge difference, but every little counts when you're lifting heavy shit attempting a new PR.

2. I've never seen a guy casually chatting to his friends, lie down and within 2 seconds just blast out a new bench PR. To lift a ****ing heavy weight you have to psych yourself up for it. Different people have different ways of doing this. one guy may shout, one guy may get his friend to slap him on the back, everybody is different.

3. Somebody mentioned habit earlier. Every athlete that lifts weights at a high level will develop a habit before they do a lift. Walk left to right 3 times each way, jump on the spot, get a slap on the back from a friend, whatever. It may look weird to some but without going through this ritual they've ingrained during their lifting career they'll most likely fail the lift.

4. Attention, as in having people watch you, is a huge game changer. Go check how many athletes set a new PR at the Olympics. When it comes to a venue with thousands or millions watching you I can guarantee that's the point when the PR's will happen.
All great points. Arousal, social facilitation, personal habits etc all play a huge part.
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If you were a serious lifter you wouldn't be saying this nonsense. Cns stimulation is the most important thing when you're pushing something to the max. Fair point about grunting if they're doing 10 reps of a bodybuilding exercise like a shoulder press or bicep curl but if something requires everything then you need to hype yourself up. Do you have an issue with Olympic weightlifters hyping themselves up as well? Or is it the fact that somebody who is weaker than you is putting a lot of effort into something you can do easily? You take a nap then go and lift 1000 pounds, see how you go.

For the record I was trolling, that said I lift a lot heavier than all the screamers in my last gym so weight isn't the reason for it at all.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:23 AM   #42
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Just to add. Try doing some serious squatting without being mentally prepared, that shit is terrifying. I'm talking about ass-to-grass squats with 3 times bodyweight on your back, not slight knee bend then back up (the standard gym rat squat). Mess that up and your lifting days are over.

Being mentally ready is undeniably important and anybody that doesn't believe that has never put 100% into something. I even scream on the bosu ball (actually I never scream, but that's my method, just focus)
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:23 AM   #43
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Yea that was painful to watch.He is a tall guy with long legs,so deadlift and squats are little bit complicated cause of his knees benfing over the tip of his toes.
But he should really get a good S&C coach cause this was terrible.
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Yea that was painful to watch.He is a tall guy with long legs,so deadlift and squats are little bit complicated cause of his knees benfing over the tip of his toes.
But he should really get a good S&C coach cause this was terrible.
Knees going over your toes while doing squats/lunges being bad for you is bullshit. Show me one study where this is shown to be true... you won't find one, it doesn't exist.

With his height and lack of mobility he should be doing sumo deadlift.
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Knees going over your toes while doing squats/lunges being bad for you is bullshit. Show me one study where this is shown to be true... you won't find one, it doesn't exist.

With his height and lack of mobility he should be doing sumo deadlift.
You may be right but i think it depends on the individual.In my case its a pathological so when i do go over it hurts really bad.
Even when i was healthy when i went over it didnt feel right.
And i had very good technique of lifting of around 160 kg when doing parallels.
Thrutfully it is said that you load up the lower back even more which is not ideal as the training effect you would like to have is adaptation to your muscles in the legs and hips when you knees go over the toes.
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You can find ****ing studies about everything today,good or bad it doesnt matter.
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